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1 posted on 07/29/2009 6:45:48 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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Here’s the deal.....if some grand mealy-mouthed moderate plan emerges, the left will bail. There are more socialist ‘progressive’ Democrats than Blue Dogs. If they don’t get their public option, they could sink the bill. I think there could be an impasse here.

Grassley may sell out for a bogus co-op idea, but I’m pretty confident that the guy is dead set against the public option, as are Enzi, Hatch, and Snowe.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 6:51:17 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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"I love the smell of Leftist s**tbirds seething in the morning! It smells like... victory!"
3 posted on 07/29/2009 6:52:54 PM PDT by pabianice
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Hehehe...Blue Dogs and Mad Dogs, rippin into each other. Like the slaughter of the Kings in the BIble.

There's a stiff, cold, and refreshing breeze picking up from the north. It's clear air, clears the mind of all the smoke and haze.

Coming soon.

As far as health care is concerned...here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document but is understood to include immigration status.

Section 224 b Page 125: The Secretary shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that — (1) seeks to (B) reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities).

A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

Donwload it, read it, study it, then hammer your reps over it and pass it on to all you know asking them to do the same.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA - A SONG
By Ron and Kay Rivoli

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

5 posted on 07/29/2009 6:54:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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So long as Medicaid and Medicare still exist unopposed there is NO “centrist” position. There are Left, Lefter, and blatant Communist positions.


6 posted on 07/29/2009 6:54:36 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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7 posted on 07/29/2009 6:54:43 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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Looks like it may have blow’d up real good.


8 posted on 07/29/2009 6:55:32 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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The left is going to implode.As we are seeing America is "NOT" about the two parties,it's all about America.These 2 parties have led us to the road to nowhere in the past 100 years.We need a America 1st party to claim our country.Just an idea.
9 posted on 07/29/2009 6:56:47 PM PDT by taxtruth (Timmy is a tax cheat)
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11 posted on 07/29/2009 6:57:40 PM PDT by Bratch
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Liberals aimed to win 50 signatures on a letter to their leaders opposing the deal to make it clear they could defeat the healthcare bill on the floor.

“Fifty is our threshold,” said Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), a co-chairman of the caucus. “That’ll kill anything.”

Yea for us guys! I think Hugh Hewitt was wrong today when he said this was a bad day in the socialized medicine wars. It looks like some fragging is going on in the enemy camp.

19 posted on 07/29/2009 7:14:43 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
The Blue Dogs' deal, which cut $100 billion from the healthcare reform price tag, was instantly denounced by Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), co-chairwoman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, who said, "It's unacceptable. We're not going to vote for anything that doesn't have a robust public plan." Liberals aimed to win 50 signatures on a letter to their leaders opposing the deal to make it clear they could defeat the healthcare bill on the floor."
How about a robust public debate, a-hole?

Or a robust public reading of the bill?

This is a brilliant move though -- if they lose, they can go back to their districts and say, we tried to get what *you* say you wanted, but were stymied; all the while they'll be thanking their lucky stars that it didn't pass, because it doesn't seem unlikely that anyone voting for the radical anti-American leftist liberal shrill shill version of the bill wouldn't survive until Labor Day. Speaking of which, one of the supermarket tabloid covers claims that Teddy Baby has told his family and friends that he's not going to make it to that first Monday in September.
20 posted on 07/29/2009 7:15:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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$100 billion out of a 1.6+ trillion dollar monstrousity is great. That’ll solve everything.... whoopie.


31 posted on 07/29/2009 8:09:48 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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Not Blue Dog lapdogs. Blue Dog Lap Dancers. Cowards, shits, and toadies.


39 posted on 07/29/2009 11:30:18 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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...”Within hours of the liberal complaints, Obama was on the phone with Rep. Jan Schakowsky, a fellow Illinois Democrat and Energy and Commerce member who is in charge of the healthcare issue for the Progressive Caucus.”...

What everyone needs to know is that Jan Schakowsky is on record as stating her (and Obama’s) goal is the ultimate destruction of the private health insurance industry in the US. I’ve seen a Youtube video of this, and it is infuriating. Check it out yourself.

This seems to me to be unconstitutional at best, very dangerous at worst, when the Federal Government is making decisions as to which industries live or die. We need to work very hard to assure Obama and the democrats do not get this monstrosity through. They cannot be trusted with our health care. Write to your representative and senators, give them an earful, that we will not accept Obamacare.


43 posted on 07/30/2009 6:31:04 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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