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To: Maelstorm

Here’s the deal.....if some grand mealy-mouthed moderate plan emerges, the left will bail. There are more socialist ‘progressive’ Democrats than Blue Dogs. If they don’t get their public option, they could sink the bill. I think there could be an impasse here.

Grassley may sell out for a bogus co-op idea, but I’m pretty confident that the guy is dead set against the public option, as are Enzi, Hatch, and Snowe.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 6:51:17 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

We will see. I think the left will almost certainly go with anything that Obama wants them to. They may scream but even if they can a very weak government option they would have a victory.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 6:53:05 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
if some grand mealy-mouthed moderate plan emerges, the left will bail

And go where? They may get angry that their socialist utopia is in jeopardy, but they're still going to support democrats/socialists. What's the difference?

13 posted on 07/29/2009 6:59:55 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This is coming to you courtesy of the US Congress and the Muslim Messiah. It is for the “unwashed masses.” Politicians, of course, will have the best care your tax dollars can provide for them and their family. Please take the time to send this to everyone you know and ask that they please forward it to their address list. Pray that the truth gets out.

FACIST Health Care

THE ONE WORD TO DESCRIBE OBAMACARE
Written by Dr. Dave Janda
Thursday, 23 July 2009

As a physician who has authored books on preventative health care, I was given the opportunity to be the keynote speaker at a Congressional Dinner at The Capitol Building in Washington last Friday (7/17).

The presentation was entitled Health Care Reform, The Power & Profit of Prevention, and I was gratified that it was well received.

In preparation for the presentation, I read the latest version of “reform” as authored by The Obama Administration and supported by Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid. Here is the link to the 1,018 page document:

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

Let me summarize just a few salient points of the above plan. First, however, it should be clear that the same warning notice must be placed on The ObamaCare Plan as on a pack of cigarettes: Consuming this product will be hazardous to your health.

The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care. There is no focus on preventing health care need whatever. The plan’s method is the most inhumane and unethical approach to cutting costs I can imagine as a physician.

The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board “will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment.”

Translation.....if you are over 65 or have been recently diagnosed as having an advanced form of cardiac disease or aggressive cancer.....dream on if you think you will get treated.....pick out your coffin.

Oh, you say this could never happen? Sorry.... this is the same model they use in Britain.

The plan mandates that there will be little or no advanced treatments to be available in the future. It creates The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research, the purpose of which is “to slow the development of new medications and technologies in order to reduce costs.” Yes, this is to be the law.

The plan also outlines that doctors and hospitals will be overseen and reviewed by The National Coordinator For Health Information and Technology.

This “ coordinator” will “monitor treatments being delivered to make sure doctors and hospitals are strictly following government guidelines that are deemed appropriate.” It goes on to say.....”Doctors and hospitals not adhering to guidelines will face penalties.”

According to those in Congress, penalties could include large six figure financial fines and possible imprisonment.

So according to The ObamaCare Plan....if your doctor saves your life you might have to go to the prison to see your doctor for follow -up appointments. I believe this is the same model Stalin used in the former Soviet Union.

Section 102 has the Orwellian title, “Protecting the Choice to Keep Current Coverage.” What this section really mandates is that it is illegal to keep your private insurance if your status changes - e.g., if you lose or change your job, retire from your job and become a senior, graduate from college and get your first job. Yes, illegal.

When Mr. Obama hosted a conference call with bloggers urging them topressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible, a blogger from Maine referenced an Investors Business Daily article that claimed
Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance.

He asked: “Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?” Mr. Obama replied: “You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about.”

Then there is Section 1233 of The ObamaCare Plan, devoted to “Advanced Care Planning.” After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner.

This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, “how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate
hospice care.” It is no wonder The Obama Administration does not like my emphasis on Prevention. For Mr. Obama, prevention is the “enemy” as people would live longer.

I rest my case. The ObamaCare Plan is hazardous to the health of every American. After I finished my Capitol Hill presentation, I was asked by a Congressman in the question-answer session: “I’ll be doing a number of network interviews on the Obama Health Care Plan. If I am asked what is the one word to describe the plan what should I answer.”

The answer is simple, honest, direct, analytical, sad but truthful. I told him that one word is FASCIST.

Then I added, “I hope you’ll have the courage to use that word, Congressman. No other word is more appropriate.”

Dr. Dave Janda, MD, is an orthopedic surgeon, and a world-recognized expert on the prevention of sports injuries, particularly in children. His website is http://www.noinjury.com/.


18 posted on 07/29/2009 7:08:43 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Am I wrong? The phone that pictures the bamster talking appears to be upside down. Just seems to sum-up the world we now live!


26 posted on 07/29/2009 7:35:55 PM PDT by tcat
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