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Health deal sparks fury on the left
http://thehill.com ^ | 07/29/09 | By Mike Soraghan, Jeffrey Young and Jared Allen

Posted on 07/29/2009 6:45:47 PM PDT by Maelstorm

A House leadership deal with Blue Dogs and an aggressive marketing push by Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) shifted the healthcare debate sharply toward centrist positions Wednesday, sparking threats of rebellion from the left.

The day’s events left the Senate Finance Committee’s emergent bill as the most viable vehicle on Capitol Hill, but also made clear that House Democrats are still riven by bitter disagreements. Democrats postponed a floor vote until after the August recess, meeting a top demand of centrist Blue Dogs.

The Blue Dogs’ deal, which cut $100 billion from the healthcare reform price tag, was instantly denounced by Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), co-chairwoman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, who said, “It’s unacceptable. We’re not going to vote for anything that doesn’t have a robust public plan.”

Liberals aimed to win 50 signatures on a letter to their leaders opposing the deal to make it clear they could defeat the healthcare bill on the floor.

“Fifty is our threshold,” said Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), a co-chairman of the caucus. “That’ll kill anything.”

The White House and Democratic leaders moved quickly to try to quell the liberal insurrection. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called a group of liberals to her office in the mid-afternoon, and Democrats postponed plans to continue a stalled markup of the bill by the Energy and Commerce Committee until Friday. Instead, they held a caucus meeting to answer member questions.

“It’s more important to let members ask questions, raise concerns,” said Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), the chairman of Energy and Commerce.

Within hours of the liberal complaints, Obama was on the phone with Rep. Jan Schakowsky, a fellow Illinois Democrat and Energy and Commerce member who is in charge of the healthcare issue for the Progressive Caucus.



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KEYWORDS: 111th; baucus; bhohealthcare; bluedogs; democrats; health; obama; obamacare; scare
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To: headstamp 2

We just need to get them to stop. They do not deserve our trust which they have violated with every dollar of the trillions they have stolen and spent from our future and from every law they pass in contempt of our quaint patriotism and belief in popular sovereignty of the citizen. These men and women are making themselves kings and queens.


21 posted on 07/29/2009 7:20:30 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: taxtruth
America is "NOT" about the two parties

That's just silly. For all their flaws and RINOS in their midst, Republicans aren't hell bent on the destruction of everything Americans hold dear, only to be constrained by the backlash they stir up each time they get enough power to try.

22 posted on 07/29/2009 7:20:53 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I would really like to use this but can’t confirm it anywhere. A review of his website shows he’s trying to sell books and a google search does not reveal this speech to a “Congressional Dinner”. I don’t doubt he wrote it but I’m having a hard time understanding his credentials or whether or not the “speech” comments are true.

This is not a slam at you but rather a plea for more information.

Thanks...


23 posted on 07/29/2009 7:23:43 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: Jeff Head; All

We need to watch for HR 645

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/80801

Also:

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=22675


24 posted on 07/29/2009 7:24:24 PM PDT by katiekins1 (Obama=DickTater N Chief)
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To: BamaBlue

Received it in an email and don’t know more than that. I will do research as well.


25 posted on 07/29/2009 7:27:00 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Am I wrong? The phone that pictures the bamster talking appears to be upside down. Just seems to sum-up the world we now live!


26 posted on 07/29/2009 7:35:55 PM PDT by tcat
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Thanks...got you PM and have responded.

Best...


27 posted on 07/29/2009 7:36:37 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: Minn
I could care less about the 2 goofy parties that for the last 100 years have taken down the country without even caring while they pulled this off.The international bankers have been running the show and that's why nothing has changed.We have had a puppet government for years controlled via the elite.How naive can you be? Geez______________________________________________!
28 posted on 07/29/2009 7:46:33 PM PDT by taxtruth (America is a ping pong game!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Wonder what the gays with HIV are thinking about now. HMMMMMM, would be interesting to know how they feel about their beloved president who wants to end their lives.

Oh what a tangled web these liberals have woven, the spider has trapped them in, they voted for him, they loved every liberal idea he has, now that they are in his trap and he will also destroy them. interesting. What's that they say, "hey we voted for you, how can you treat us this way?" well suprise, suprise,you were told who he was from the beginning.

Then there are the liberal hollyweird types with all their diseases, they gonna be counseled and die also, hmmmmmm

29 posted on 07/29/2009 7:48:07 PM PDT by annieokie (i)
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To: taxtruth
2 goofy parties that for the last 100 years have taken down the country

Yea, the last 100 years have been a real bleak time for the US. Becoming the most prosperous and powerful country in the history of history, and living lives beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors has been a real drag. And I'm naive?

30 posted on 07/29/2009 8:01:23 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Maelstorm

$100 billion out of a 1.6+ trillion dollar monstrousity is great. That’ll solve everything.... whoopie.


31 posted on 07/29/2009 8:09:48 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: bamahead

“A weak government bureaucracy can be easily expanded...”

I think this will be accomplished by the committee Obama wants to set up to monitor the health care plan. My understanding is that this committee will make annual recommendations to improve the health care plan. Unless congress votes against ALL of the recommendations, the recommendations will automatically become part of the plan.

This sounds suspiciously like the congressional pay increases, whereby the increases automatically go into effect unless the congress votes against them in a secret vote.


32 posted on 07/29/2009 8:19:57 PM PDT by mouske
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To: Minn

You can’t argue with the facts.


33 posted on 07/29/2009 8:20:36 PM PDT by taxtruth (America is a ping pong game!)
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To: taxtruth
You can’t argue with the facts.

So stop already, you look loony.

34 posted on 07/29/2009 8:47:59 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn

You have no clue what I’m even talking about do you?Are you that far out of touch?You must live in the midwest under a rock or a cave?


35 posted on 07/29/2009 9:16:40 PM PDT by taxtruth (America is a ping pong game!)
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To: taxtruth
You have no clue what I’m even talking about do you?

Some unhinged rant about two political parties conspiring to destroy the nation over the last 100 years that would be deeply embarrassing to your relatives if they knew it came from you, right?

36 posted on 07/29/2009 9:22:33 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn
Gee,how has America become the most in debt nation in the world when we were the most powerful nation ever built and the most wealthy.Explain how that happened_______________? Did it have anything to do with the two parties in the last 100 years maybe?
37 posted on 07/29/2009 9:40:39 PM PDT by taxtruth (America is a ping pong game!)
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To: taxtruth
Gee,how has America become the most in debt nation in the world ...? Did it have anything to do with the two parties in the last 100 years maybe?

Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, AFDC... and on and on. All almost exclusively brought to us by the left and their bidders in the Dem party. All the whining about deficits and debt going up in the 80, and even under W, ignored the fact that all the spending that broke the bank was on Left/Dem inspired and instituted transfer payments and social programs that Reagan, Bush and Bush could do little to control. You can't spend an economy the size of the US into debt with military spending, police, roads and bridges. It takes social spending and social engineering to do that. Who brought us that? Don't tell me. An evil cabal of International bankers (code for Jews?) and their puppets in both parties, right?

38 posted on 07/29/2009 10:03:08 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Maelstorm

Not Blue Dog lapdogs. Blue Dog Lap Dancers. Cowards, shits, and toadies.


39 posted on 07/29/2009 11:30:18 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Maelstorm

“Look at Marco Rubio. We say we don’t want Christ and where is the money?”


I think you meant to write “Crist,” without the H . . . .


40 posted on 07/30/2009 12:00:35 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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