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Posted on 07/29/2009 4:29:49 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

Barack Obama may not legally be "Barack Obama"

"Frank Marshal Davis is the real father of Barack Obama and the reason for the coverup of the birth certificate."

(at the link below, photographs show Obama's young mother was intimate with her father's communist friend Frank Marshall Davis--shown nude at his apartment---I now believe she became pregnant by him at 17--they used Obama Sr as a coverup))

Obama conceals his records because he is identity may not be legal? what father is listed on his birth certificate? What name? What does this mean to his presidency? Is this the reason Obama's name is linked to multiple social security numbers including a 119 ear old man in Connecticut?

His identity is more confused than ever. Just think of it. The man that is shaping our country is a man of many faces, which one is real?

http://www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/naughty-obama-mamma.html

October 24, 2008 Communist Frank Marshall Davis Alleged to have been Barack Obama`s Father Filed under: obamamania — admin @ 7:29 am Jack Kemp (not the politician):

You may have heard of this already, but just in case…

Journalist (and attorney) Andy Martin says that Frank Marshal Davis is the real father of Barack Obama and the reason for the coverup of the birth certificate.

I can add that photos show Sen. Obama more physically resembles Franklin Marshall Davis than he does Barack Obama Senior from Kenya.

That would make Obama a US born citizen, but one involved in a marital scandal and whose real name is not on either the birth certificate or his filing papers for being on the presidential ballot in all 57…er…50 states.

If that is true, that could be fought in both state and the federal Supreme Courts, getting Obama’s name removed from ballots in a few key states and some lesser populated ones as well.

This story is like a soap opera on steroids and LSD.

Andy Martin speculates that Obama is going to Hawaii to squelch a deathbead confession by his grandmother, as she knows the truth (which may well be stranger than fiction).

Who here really believed Obama was going to Hawaii this week out of concern for his grandma? Whereas hardcore Obama voters couldn’t care less what the truth is, this could lose Obama a lot of voter support. Mr. Martin’s latest post - and link - appear below.

Jack

http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/ Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Barack Obama is not Barack Obama

The presidential campaign is sure to be roiled by the findings of Internet powerhouse and Chicago investigator Andy Martin.

Does Obama fear a “dying declaration“ by his grandmother? “It’s time for Obama to stop lying and start truth-telling,“ Andy says.

The Obama investigation in Hawai’i, Part Three Obama’s Hawai’i Years: The truth finally revealed Barack Obama is not “Barack Obama“ ANDY MARTIN Executive Editor ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not Politically Correct“

(HONOLULU, HI)(October 22, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin told a Honolulu news conference today that after an intense international investigation he is convinced that Barack Obama, Junior, the presidential candidate is really the son of Obama’s controversial mentor Frank Marshall Davis.

Mendacious adults ‘switched’ Obama at birth. That is why he has refused to allow access to the original or ‘vault’ birth certificate, Martin told a Honolulu news conference.

We believe the original certificate did not list a father. Barack Obama became the father as a result of an agreement between Ann Dunham, Frank Marshall Davis and Barack Obama, Sr.

Davis was already married to a White Woman. He did not need a nonmarital child by a second one.

Ann probably refused to have what was then called a ‘back alley’ abortion. Davis may have felt that ‘Obama’ would face less stigma with an ‘African’ background than a Negro one.

The civil rights revolution, of course, turned that gambit upside down. In discovering and understanding what happened we cannot forget we are dealing with events in 1961, not 2008.

The irony in all of this is that Obama once stated he did not want his daughters to be ‘victimized’ with a child. And he is alive because his mother took the contrary view.

Barack Obama has known this since adulthood, and the shock of this discovery still reverberates in his psyche.

Ironically, what I have to say today dilutes the ‘Muslim’ theory that has propagated. Davis was not a Muslim.

If Obama had told the truth at some point in his life, instead of living endlessly with the lies that were imposed on him by the adults in his life, we would have avoided a great deal of confusion. I, for one, have deep compassion for Mr. Obama. He is not the first person in history to be caught up in this kind of family fraud.

The disclosure by the two women in his life that he was not the ‘son’ of his ‘father’ also explains why he manifests such extreme ambivalence to both his mother and grandmother. He is angry because he was cheated of his real father.

Obama was robbed of his birthright of being the son of civil rights royalty, and of a father with whom he was completely simpatico.

He could have grown up the son of Frank Marshall Davis, civil rights pioneer and activist, cutting-edge journalist, poet and man of letters. Mr. Davis was an extraordinary man in a dark period of this nation’s history, the pre-dawn of the civil rights era.

Obama has probably suspended his campaign and is flying to Honolulu because he is deathly afraid his grandmother may make a ‘dying declaration’ and blow the whistle on his family fraud. Dying people often blurt out the truth.

The true facts of Obama’s parentage also reflect why there has been so much tension and alienation, as well as genuine love, in Obama’s relationship with his grandmother.

There has been a great deal of confusion and misconception about Frank Marshall Davis. A brief history lesson is essential to understanding the bizarre facts of Obama’s provenance.

During the 1920’s and 30’s many Negros (African-Americans) became ‘communists’ because the Soviet Union and the Communist Party USA promised to end racial segregation and Jim Crow laws in the United States.

The Democratic Party, of course, was the powerful force behind segregation and Jim Crow. So it is a twist of fate that the same party that oppressed Blacks has now nominated one for president.

Madelyn Dunham is the last surviving person who knows the truth about the switch. That is why as we closed in on Dunham, Obama went ballistic, cancelled his campaign and came to Hawai’i to head us off.

I actually carry an official, certified pocket-sized birth certificate on me at all times [Andy shows a copy to media]. But this is NOT my ‘birth certificate.’ The original certificate is held in the City Clerk’s vault in Middletown, Connecticut. That is what has come to be known as the ‘vault copy.’

Likewise, the document that Obama has plastered over the Internet is NOT his original birth certificate or even a copy of his original certificate. It is a computer generated facsimile of an official record and nothing more.

The original certificate was either handwritten or typewritten, not computer-generated in 1961. No one has ever seen that original certificate except the people that are working so hard to keep it hidden from the American people.

I am asking Judge Ayabe to impound the value certificate and have the court hold it for safekeeping.

By the time Barack Obama learned who he was, it was too late to change his identity. He was who he was, so he continued the ruse of being the son of an ‘African herder,’ which was yet another lie.

‘Dreams From My Father’ bears no connection to dreams from Barack Obama; there were none. It was Frank Marshall Davis who communicated his dreams to his secret son.

There is a simple way for Obama to resolve this controversy: he can either admit the truth of these facts and order the immediate release of his vault certificate; or he can submit to a DNA test.

We can conduct a Maury Povich-style DNA test to determine filiation between Obama and his brothers, one of whom blogs at BarackObama.com.

In closing, I can only say that we used the fictional ‘Hawai’i Five-O’ as our dramatic template for this investigative operation. We could have as easily used the great, real-life Hawai’i detective Chang Apana as our polestar. He was featured in yesterday’s newspaper.

“As for Mr. Obama, all I can say is ‘Book’em Danno. Case solved. Barack Obama the presidential candidate is the son of Frank Marshall Davis.“ Martin stated.

“I bear Mr. Obama no ill will and no animus. I have only been a faithful servant of the search for truth, and I believe we finally know the secret truths about who Barack Obama really is: the son of Frank Marshall Davis.“

FULL DISCLOSURE: I recently decided to oppose Barack Obama’s election and became Executive Director of The Stop Obama Coalition, http://StopObamaCoalition.com. By default, I became the national leader of the anti-Obama movement.

I am not acting as either a Democrat or Republican. I have had no contact whatsoever with the McCain Campaign. I am not a member of any political organization.


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KEYWORDS: andymartin; birthcertificate; certifigate; dunham; frankmarshalldavis; imom; obroma
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To: cycle of discernment

I’m sure that if Obama is forced to produce his birth certificate and it shows that he was not born in Hawaii, he will be interested in your theory.


21 posted on 07/29/2009 5:36:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: cycle of discernment
The point is if Obama filed under an alias, he is illiegal.

A simple DNA test comparing him to his supposed half brother, sister, or what ever should easily tell. Good luck to us on that!

22 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:33 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Moonmad27

Both ( exposing Obama while continuing to oppose his policies—which is gaining traction) can happen in concert it seems to me.


23 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:36 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Moonmad27
I wish these birthers would get fired up about something effective and not ridiculous - like organizing opposition to his policies.

Don't fall into that liberal trap. You are assuming that we can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

The Birther issue is not subtracting from the total attack on Obama and his policies-it is adding to it. And it is working. Look at the energy that The Left is being required to pour into its anti-birther tirades. That is taking real oxygen out of their tent. People aren't stupid. When Daily Kos starts ranting about something people wonder WHY.

We know who John Galt is. We just want to know who Barak Obama is.

24 posted on 07/29/2009 5:43:21 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: jws3sticks
Here's a fun thing to do if you have a few minutes. Do a Google for "Frank Marshall Davis" and "Frank Marshal Davis".

Mommy has some interesting pictures, too.

25 posted on 07/29/2009 5:45:07 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: cycle of discernment
Then he should be wise enough to at least digest information that has bearing.

In what way does hearsay have bearing to the facts.

He was wise enough to see it for what it is...conjecture, speculation, and opinion. If you think you're wise enough to see that it's more than that, then by all means, point out for all of here, where he offers evidence to support his claims.

26 posted on 07/29/2009 5:53:47 AM PDT by csense
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To: GBA

A “Well, how about that...” ping to self.


27 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:32 AM PDT by GBA
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To: jws3sticks

Wasn’t Clinton an illegitimate child as well?

What is it with ‘rats and illegit politicians?

Is this where the term ‘rat bastard’ comes from?


28 posted on 07/29/2009 5:59:25 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Uncle Chip
I’m sure that if Obama is forced to produce his birth certificate

OK, Uncle Chip, I'll hold him down and you look under his bed. There's an Indonesian CIGAR BOX THERE WITH THE BIRTH CERTI......OMG!

Chip, there's a hole in the Constitution. There is no mechanism ... no legal process....no way to force the guy to do anything about the Birth Certificate... much less force him to figure out if FMD, The Commie Labor Writer and Pornographer, is the bio-pa. Team Obama is working the legal angles on defense, Team Keyes et al are working their legal angles on offense. The offense is starting on their own goal line. The defense is holding all over the country, forcing turnovers on 1st down. Team Obama has two seemingly insurmountable advantages:
(1) they probably know the absolute truth and
(2) they don't have to prove a damn thing. It's the law.

29 posted on 07/29/2009 6:20:10 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Just unpatriotic. And dumb.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I thought about that too. But if you watch t.v. way way too too much like I do, (CSI-all flavors, Law & Order, la la la) then you know that one can easily get DNA from an unwilling suspect. (Discarded cig, drink can, hair from wherever, etc.)

That scenario is no far fetched if you asked me. But I tend to believe the Kenya thing because of the Grandma thing, plus the fact that it seems to be common knowledge over there that he was born in Kenya. PLUS, now they’re chargin “admission” to see where this imposter was born in Kenya? Please. I don’t know what the answer is, but boy howdy, you can’t suppress the truth forever, whatever that truth is, Obama is hiding something.


30 posted on 07/29/2009 6:20:25 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: cycle of discernment
Journalist (LOL) (and attorney) Andy Martin and notorious antisemitic is full of it.
31 posted on 07/29/2009 6:24:28 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: MrB

Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are. Thanks for my first laugh for today.


32 posted on 07/29/2009 6:28:15 AM PDT by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: SaintDismas
... whatever that truth is, Obama is hiding something.

Not just something, he is hiding everything. No copies of school records, pass ports, travel agendas, etc. All are sealed.

Of interest to me is where he got the money for all his living expenses, travel and schooling. The same was true of Bill Clinton. When he was expelled from Oxford for attempted rape (the unofficial truth) Clinton travelled for months throughout eastern Europe and Russia with no explanation ever offered as to where, why or how.

Both seem to have been groomed for the positions they eventually achieved.

33 posted on 07/29/2009 7:05:17 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: MrB

yes, Clinton is also theson of a fictious and conveniently dead father. Now that he’s lost weight, when you look at him in profile, his resemblance to a prominent family is striking. I’m from NY, and I kept being puzzled by how he could look so much like our former governor. Until I read that the governor’s brother was governer of Ark. when Clinton was born.


34 posted on 07/29/2009 7:40:07 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: cycle of discernment

But also fraudulent of it checks out. All the filing papers to run for office would be invalid legally it seems if obama is shown to be using aliases.

Only if you can prove he knowingly used an alias for fraudulent purposes..Is it his fault if his mom lied to him?


35 posted on 07/29/2009 8:05:58 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Kenny Bunk
there's a hole in the Constitution

No, the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution is a requirement not a hole. That requirement is in the highest law of the land.

When a clause like this is so blatantly violated right in front of our eyes, it emboldens those that have done it to boldly violate any and all others at their convenience, and those who have let this happen will find themselves ruled by the lawless who will subsequently appoint czars, take over corporations, violate rights of bondholders, control their health, take their property, etc in continual contravention of that highest law of the land.

Proverbs has this to say: "They that forsake the law, praise the lawless" [Pr 28:4]

To those who call the natural born citizen requirement a loophole, I say:

"praise away -- the lawless love their useful idiots".

36 posted on 07/29/2009 8:13:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: cycle of discernment
I wonder if the Poem “POP” really isn't about Frank Marshall? Hawaii officials say Obama was born there. Obama spent time with Marshall so Marshall could see his kid. Obama Sr split to get rid of a nutty white broad. Obama hanging around with Marshall, Marshall tells him the truth about “Whose your Dad”, what it was like banging mom Barack, shows ugly pictures of mama. Obama creates a whole fantasy about Barack Obama and buries his past because Marshall is really a jerk. Obama’s moma names Obama Sr. as daddy because she was still married to him.
37 posted on 07/29/2009 9:36:28 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Uncle Chip
No, the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution is a requirement not a hole. That requirement is in the highest law of the land.

You are correct, and I did not mean to trivialize the issue. For that I apologize.

However, The "Natural Born Requirement" is an opening for the unscrupulous of this era, whose machinations the Founding Fathers being human, were unable to foresee. The Founders relied upon contemporary ideas of natural law as handed down to us by English law. So, they did not define "Natural Born Citizen," nor indeed did they even feel they had to. Furthermore, and more important to us in the present quandary, they did not specifically designate any any authority over the requirement.

My own particular efforts are directed at making the documentary evidence of eligibility mandatory by state law. It is the electors of the states who can say who is eligible and who is not, and to cast the state's votes in the Electoral College. If a state has a "Proof of Eligibility Law" they can deny a candidate who refuses proof a place on the ballot in that state and thus, the state's electoral votes. Secondarily, any legal disputes could not be ignored by the Federal Courts.

38 posted on 07/29/2009 11:18:01 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk

But Obama has no defense against the ultimate weapon—political pressure—once it reaches a certain critical mass.

Although still on the low part of the curve, each day it’s moving closer towards exponential increase.


39 posted on 07/29/2009 1:55:32 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: cycle of discernment

Paternity fraud doesn’t make ones name invalid, even if you are named “Jr” of a man who is not your biological father.

Around 10% of the population is not born to the person they think is their father. That doesn’t mean that they need new names.


40 posted on 07/29/2009 2:01:18 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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