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Are Evolutionists Delusional (or just in denial)?
UNCOMMON DESCENT ^ | July 27, 2009 | Cornelius Hunter, Ph.D.

Posted on 07/28/2009 4:33:32 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

My friend Paul Nelson has the patience of Job. He writes that evolutionists, such as PZ Myers and Jerry Coyne, “need to think about [their theological arguments] more deeply.” In one moment evolutionists make religious arguments and in the next they claim their theory is “just science.” Their religious arguments, they explain, really aren’t religious arguments after all. Gee, that was easy. In light of such absurdity, I don’t have much confidence that evolutionists are going to think more deeply about this. But it would be nice if they would stop misrepresenting science. And it would be nice if they would stop using their credentials to mislead the public. In short, it would be nice if they would stop lying...

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To: GodGunsGuts
In short, it would be nice if they would stop lying...

Christians of all people know how difficult it is to stop sinning. What makes this author believe non-Christians can stop it?

21 posted on 07/28/2009 5:28:51 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: tacticalogic

The point is, the very top positions of science are almost all occupied by evo-atheists. No wonder Creation/ID scientists can’t get a fair shake.


22 posted on 07/28/2009 5:29:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Soothesayer
Yep. Evolution, like the moon landing, is part of history. And both have their deniers.

The main difference between the two groups of deniers is that only one of them has control of many school boards across the nation - and, consequently, access to or even virtual control over generations of young minds. Scary.

If America is in decline, a large part of the blame should go to the extremists on both sides who are pimping various forms of anti-intellectualism - ghetto/thug "culture" from the Far Left and religious extremism from the Far Right.

"Learning is a white man's thing!"

"Learning is an atheist's thing!"

Same rant. Same lie. Same consequences. I'm an evolutionist. I'm also not an atheist. One of the many billions of things that creationists fail to understand about evolution is that it is simply a way of explaining how different species arose. It is not a religious (or anti-religious) statement. It is not an argument for or against God. It's just biology.

23 posted on 07/28/2009 5:31:07 PM PDT by JillValentine (Drinking Kool-Aid leads to PDS.)
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To: HarleyD

It’s supposed to be built right into their code of ethics, as science cannot progress if everyone starts lying about their work...but your point is well taken.


24 posted on 07/28/2009 5:31:45 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: JillValentine

+1


25 posted on 07/28/2009 5:33:25 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: JillValentine
The real moon-howlers are those who observe super-sophisticated bio-nano designs in nature, and then turn around and attribute these obvious products of superior intelligence to random processes plus survival! No wonder so many Evos believe in little green men on Mars!!!


26 posted on 07/28/2009 5:43:23 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: humblegunner

It’s not Creationist spam, it’s ID spam.


27 posted on 07/28/2009 6:13:19 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (In Soviet Russia, Sarah Palin's house can see YOU)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Why do you post here if it's ‘spam”? Did you read the article or are you just going to stand across the street and bray at what's taking place?

Coyne’s argument, however silly, is still his argument and can be dealt with pro and con since that's what the grownups here do.

Pay attention and learn, and we'll call you Oztrich Adult.

28 posted on 07/28/2009 7:39:47 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 07/28/2009 8:45:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JillValentine
I'm an evolutionist. I'm also not an atheist.

Molecular evolution & The God of Abraham, Issac and Israel, form a nice theory.

30 posted on 07/28/2009 8:46:14 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: GodGunsGuts
The point is, the very top positions of science are almost all occupied by evo-atheists. No wonder Creation/ID scientists can’t get a fair shake.

What's the criteria we're using for "fair"?

31 posted on 07/29/2009 3:52:20 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Read “Slaughter of the Dissidents.” Then you will know what I mean by “fair.”


32 posted on 07/29/2009 8:31:55 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Read “Slaughter of the Dissidents.” Then you will know what I mean by “fair.”

I'm not playing your propaganda game. If you can't come right out and tell me what you mean by "fair" then it's a stone waste of time talking to you.

33 posted on 07/29/2009 8:48:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Are Creationists delusional?


34 posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:33 AM PDT by verity
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To: tacticalogic

Thank goodness for that!


35 posted on 07/29/2009 9:03:15 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: verity

No, creationists believe creation is as it appears to be—created; whereas the Temple of Darwin says creation appears to be designed for a purpose, but it’s all just an illusion. As such, the creationists are behaving rationally, whereas the evo-atheists are delusional.


36 posted on 07/29/2009 9:12:29 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Is evolutionary biology (the modern synthesis) a dogma? No, no more than the law of gravity. Is it an anti-religion religion? No. Evolutionary biology says nothing whatsoever about God. It says that we can adequately explain the observed fact of descent with modification without invoking God or a creator, but it by no means denies the existence of a creator. Some biologists think that evolutionary biology provides evidence against the existence of God, just as some think it allows for a god. I think you may with intellectual honesty believe anything you like regarding God, provided that your belief does not contradict known scientific fact.


37 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:29 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You’re thankful that you can’t explain, in your own words, what you mean by “fair”, and that it takes a 450 page book, written by someone else to do it for you?


38 posted on 07/29/2009 9:57:23 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You’re thankful that you can’t explain, in your own words, what you mean by “fair”, and that it takes a 450 page book, written by someone else to do it for you?


39 posted on 07/29/2009 9:57:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: JillValentine

Outstanding post.


40 posted on 07/29/2009 9:59:59 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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