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6 Reasons Obama-Care Is Bad Medicine
Townhall.com ^ | July 28, 2009 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 07/28/2009 5:05:01 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/28/2009 5:05:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Only six?


2 posted on 07/28/2009 5:06:22 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
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To: MuttTheHoople

1017 reasons!


3 posted on 07/28/2009 5:09:50 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Kaslin

The one thing that I haven’t heard addressed through this entire debacle....or rather the one question I haven’t heard asked: If they are so damn concerned about the ‘uninsured’ why aren’t they focusing on them instead of destroying what is arguably the best health care system in the world. Leave us the hell alone. If you are so concerned, then dole out your millions made illicitly, to those poor souls that want health care but cannot afford it. LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE


4 posted on 07/28/2009 5:12:42 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: Kaslin

This bill is really scary. :( Thanks for the post.

Here are some page #’s and things that can be found in the bill.....

PG 59: The federal government accesses your bank accounts for mandatory funds transfers.
PG 65, Sec 164: Creates special, federally-subsidized coverage for Unions and “Community Organizing” groups.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Dictates the benefits packages of all private health insurance plans.
PG 85, Line 7: Limits what private insurers can offer (rationed care).
PG 91, Lines 4-7: Mandates that health care providers pay for interpreters for illegal immigrants.
Pg 95, Lines 8-18: The mandatory use of ACORN and Americorps for signing up Americans to government insurance.
PG 85, Line 7: Imposes more limits on coverage (rationing).
PG 102, Lines 12-18: Mandates Medicare for all who fit criteria (removes all choice).
PG 124, Lines 24-25: Bans companies from suing the federal government, bans the entire judicial system from hearing any cases on the legitimacy of this blatantly unconstitutional socialist health care takeover (no judicial review allowed whatsoever).
PG 127, Lines 1-16: Instructs doctors/AMA on what salaries they are allowed to make.
PG 145, Line 15-17: Requires all employers to enroll all new employees in the government system (no choice whatsoever).
PG 126, Lines 22-25: Requires employers to independently provide insurance for part-time workers, whether they can afford it or not (no choice).
PG 149, Lines 16-24: Imposes an 8% payroll tax penalty for any employer (making over $400k) who fails to force his employees onto government insurance.
PG 150, Lines 9-13: Employers making between $251k and $400k pay 2-6% penalty.
PG 167, Lines 18-23: Imposes 2.5% income tax penalty on any privately-insured individual who fails to get “adequate” private insurance.
PG 170, Lines 1-3: Stipulates that all non-resident aliens pay nothing (we foot the bill).
PG 195: Federal officers will have full access to every citizen’s most private records.


5 posted on 07/28/2009 5:14:01 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger ( Government Healthcare will have the efficiency of the postal service and the compassion of IRS)
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To: Kaslin
Americans should it and read it themselves. And then urge everyone they know to do the same. They will become more educated on the matter than their own reps and Senators and will find scores of reasons that this monstrosity must not pass.

Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. Section 152 Page 50: All healthcare services will be provided without regard to "personal characteristcs" which is not defined within the document but is understood to include immigration status.

A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA - A SONG
By Ron and Kay Rivoli

6 posted on 07/28/2009 5:14:47 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Where does the US Constitution say the poor or anyone else shall be granted Health Care by the Federal Government? It doesnt! Check Article 1 Section 8 Enumerated Powers of the Federal Government.


7 posted on 07/28/2009 5:16:16 AM PDT by TNoldman (Conservative Values FOREVER!)
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No one denies that in an affluent country such as our own, it borders on tragic that millions do not have some form of health care.

NONSENSE.
Nothing tragic about it.
In this affluent Country people chose to be criminals. People chose to be drug addicts.People chose to kill their unborn babies.
Surely some people have no immediate health care through no particular fault of their own.But many 10’sof thousands that could have healthcare chose not to have it for the same reason people chose not to have insutrance to drive their car or to have life insurance etc. Yes there are plenty of things wrong in our health care system.NO we do not need the Federal Government taking over our health care.


8 posted on 07/28/2009 5:17:10 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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There are as many reasons why universal health care in America is ‘bad medicine’ as there are Americans who will be forced into it.

There is something abjectly immoral about a system of government which makes political capital out the peoples’ misfortune of becoming ill or needing health care.

The government is the ‘kiss of death’ to any sort of delivery of services you can name. If you only look at the positively byzantine nightmare of public education in this country, that would tell you everything you need to know about the likelihood of the U.S government's timely and proficient delivery of national health care.

9 posted on 07/28/2009 5:23:27 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: EmilyGeiger

I am surprised we have not heard mor about the direct electronic access to your bank account by the Federal Government. This seems like a BIG deal and the first I heard of it was last night.

Under the guise of “your behaviors now cost all of us so is not your own business” getting health care is far from free because it allows access to ALL parts of our lives from diet to risk-taking activities. It is like being a “pet” instead of a human being.


10 posted on 07/28/2009 5:37:43 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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Big Brother is watching out for you..... like you said, it’s like being a guinea pig in a cage.


11 posted on 07/28/2009 5:52:24 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger ( Government Healthcare will have the efficiency of the postal service and the compassion of IRS)
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To: Kaslin

bfl


12 posted on 07/28/2009 6:24:54 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal in Sarah)
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To: EmilyGeiger
HealthCare ...meets the post office.
13 posted on 07/28/2009 6:45:26 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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14 posted on 07/28/2009 6:47:28 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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15 posted on 07/28/2009 6:56:46 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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16 posted on 07/28/2009 6:57:37 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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To: EmilyGeiger
Waiting for service ...
17 posted on 07/28/2009 6:59:01 AM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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To: EmilyGeiger

Thanks for the page numbers. That’s only the first 200 pages. I hope you and others will keep adding to the list.


18 posted on 07/28/2009 7:06:05 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: 4Liberty

LOL! Ok, I need help guys! there is a poster for health care on facebook who just called me a liar, because I posted some of the things from FR about the healthcare bill. Pg 65 is one thing he has issue with. I am so sick of these idiots!!!


19 posted on 07/28/2009 7:07:17 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger ( Government Healthcare will have the efficiency of the postal service and the compassion of IRS)
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To: IM2MAD; Jeff Head

jeffhead has had several posts with information on this heinous bill. He has a link to the whole bill if I’m not mistaken. It really is a bad bill. Facebook’s poll has people opposed to it 3 to 1, so there are idiots posting comments over there trying to persuade users of what a good idea Universal health care is. Makes me sick.


20 posted on 07/28/2009 7:44:46 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger ( Government Healthcare will have the efficiency of the postal service and the compassion of IRS)
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