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Raising a Dangerously Obese Child Is a Shame — But Is It a Crime?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 27 | Michele Catalano

Posted on 07/27/2009 9:00:00 AM PDT by AJKauf

In aisle six there’s a man wheeling a grocery cart filled with prepackaged and ready-to-make food: TV dinners, frozen breakfasts, macaroni and cheese, and similar items. The cart is also overflowing with sugary cereals and a variety of soda. The man weighs about 400 pounds. With him is his son. The boy is about 12-years-old and weighs close to 200 pounds. He’s pointing to things he wants — Pop-Tarts, Oreos, Rice Krispies Treats — and the father is throwing everything the kid asks for into the cart.

“That’s child abuse,” I think to myself. “That man is endangering the welfare of his child. He should be arrested.”

Of course, I was speaking hyperbolically. You can’t really arrest someone for what they choose to feed their child, right?

Now it seems as if my hyperbole wasn’t so outlandish after all. A South Carolina woman was arrested for criminal child neglect because her 14-year-old son, Alexander Draper, weighs 555 pounds.

When the boy’s mother, Jerri Gray, was asked for an explanation as to how her son got so dangerously obese, she said, “Well, a lot of times it had to do with lifestyle. A lot of times I had to work full time second shift or full time, third shift. And I wasn’t home a lot.” She explained that she would often purchase fast food for Alexander because she didn’t have time to cook due to work.

It’s easy to call the mother out on this. ...

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To: EricT.

That is what I thought. Thanks.


41 posted on 07/27/2009 10:36:24 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: pandoraou812
You can disagree but I still believe the additives that are in food now have a lot to do with weight gain. We didn't have boxed mac & cheese. I never had that at home. My mother didn't allow food like that unless she made it herself. All this pre made food has more additives then food did when I was a child.

Weigh gain is simply a relationship between calories consumed and calories burned. The source and make up of those calories is secondary. You're trying to blame something other than the cause and it's just a calorie distraction.

Michael Phelps will sometimes consume 20,000 calories in a day and, like most people his age, he eats a lot of processed food and junk food. I don't care what you feed a lab rat but it will not gain weight if you put it on a treadmill for a large part of a day.

42 posted on 07/27/2009 11:13:17 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: ReneeLynn

“These extreme cases are not the rule, they’re the exception and they’re being used to put over the idea of gov’t intervention by shaming parents if their child is fat.”

Precisely.

Hard cases make bad law. Especially hard, extremely rare cases (How many 500lb kids has anyone here seen?).


43 posted on 07/27/2009 11:18:07 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
(How many 500lb kids has anyone here seen?).

Have you been to Alabama lately?

44 posted on 07/27/2009 11:38:22 AM PDT by EricT. ("Mankind, when left to themselves, are unfit for their own government." -George Washington)
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To: Mase

True. Exercise is a must. I still don’t like what they add to food though. I think it is better for you to eat fresh veggies/fruit & less junk food.


45 posted on 07/27/2009 11:43:21 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: Mase
Weigh gain is simply a relationship between calories consumed and calories burned. The source and make up of those calories is secondary.

Actually, that's not totally true. The calories you consume in the form of sugar are different than the calories you consume in the form of protein or fat. Your body metabolizes those three basic sources of calories differently.

46 posted on 07/27/2009 11:48:56 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (http://koreanforniancooking.blogspot.com/)
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To: AJKauf

“That’s child abuse, I think to myself.”

That’s none of your business, I think to myself.


47 posted on 07/27/2009 11:53:53 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Tamar1973
Yes, but for the sake of this discussion, those differences are minuscule and really don't add up to much. If most people limited their caloric intake to 1500 - 2000 calories a day it wouldn't matter where those calories came from, they wouldn't get fat.

The issue with obesity isn't the source of calories so much as it is the relationship of total calories consumed vs. total calories burned.

The average American consumes too many calories and the source of those calories is, too often, from carbohydrates.

48 posted on 07/27/2009 11:57:52 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Notary Sojac; AJKauf

Another chapter in the Free Republic catechism, according to which:
Fat people = disgusting and pathetic

Smokers = noble and persecuted


Mega dittos!

OTOH, the ‘working’ excuse doesn’t cut it. That kid can’t be getting that many calories all by himself; mommy has to be using a ram-rod to push enough down his throat to hit that 550 mark.

Sometimes it is necessary to just say, “NO!”; and it is is a parental responsibility tio do so, reinforced with a paddle when necessary.

At about his age, it wasn’t unusual for me, at MY summer job, to buy 5 5/$ chesseburges, a cup of chili, and a POUND bag of fries for lunch, yet I “only” weight 1/3 of his weight. But I STILL got ragged on for being ‘pudgy’ by older, thinner, guys who couldn’t keep up with my working pace. 50 years later, I STILL don’t weigh half of what he does, though I still eat more than I “should”, and the doctor wants me to shed 30-40 pounds...but I do NOT want the goober-mint to give that the force of law.

Still, 550 pounds at 14 is one whole lot of “fast food”; something else is going on there.


49 posted on 07/27/2009 12:03:31 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: Mase
The issue with obesity isn't the source of calories so much as it is the relationship of total calories consumed vs. total calories burned.

Like I said, the latest research doesn't back up that assertion.

Remeber this factoid from biology class?: "A gram of carbohydrates has four calories, a gram of protein has four calories and a gram of fat has nine calories. Fat is twice as dense in calories than either protein or carbohydrates."

Hence they are NOT the same. They are not burned the same or processed the same.

50 posted on 07/27/2009 12:05:57 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (http://koreanforniancooking.blogspot.com/)
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To: Tamar1973
Huh? I have no idea what you mean. If you eat 10,000 calories in a day without any exercise what is more important, the fact that you consumed 10,000 calories or where those 10,000 calories came from?

I said total calories consumed vs. total calories burned. I'm not concerned with how many grams of fat, protein or carbs you consumed. I am only concerned with total calories.

Fats, carbs and proteins are metabolized differently. So are simple carbs vs. complex carbs. But, when you're talking about obesity, that discussion really isn't all that important. What's important is the total number of calories a person consumes vs. the total number of calories they burn. Michael Phelphs can eat 20,000 calories a day from fat, carbohydrates or protein (or a combination of all three) and not get fat. A couch potato can eat the same thing and become obese.

This is a pretty simple concept, really.

51 posted on 07/27/2009 12:25:59 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: pandoraou812
Too many children don't get outside & play like I did as a child. I never wanted to be inside, winter or summer. I don't understand parents who let their children watch TV or play video games & sit for hours on the computer.

I suspect that has more to do with it than anything.
52 posted on 07/27/2009 12:44:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: AJKauf

Whenever I see one of those shows where someone who weighs 600 pounds hasn’t been out of his bed in 4 years and needs a crane to get to an ambulance, I wonder WHO IS FEEDING THIS IDIOT????? If it’s not a crime it’s sure some kind of negligence as much as it would be to refuse someone food.


53 posted on 07/27/2009 12:50:56 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: exist
It's kind of a weird problem all its own and is like the person who overfeeds his fish or over-waters the plants thinking it equals love.

This Mom obviously loves her baby, but has no "off" button. She's also pretty lumpy her own self.

54 posted on 07/27/2009 12:56:56 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: AJKauf
We need to limit government interference, not encourage it.
55 posted on 07/27/2009 1:02:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Deb

I always wonder how they bathe. Or get to the bathroom. I couldn’t deal with it. I wouldn’t enable somebody to weigh that much.


56 posted on 07/27/2009 1:03:13 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: pandoraou812

It has to be some form of mental illness.


57 posted on 07/27/2009 1:05:48 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

I don’t know if if starts out that way. But after you get so huge I think it must be an addiction & a mental problem. I know if I put on my jeans & they are tight then I know I better cut back on eating & look at what I am eating.


58 posted on 07/27/2009 1:14:31 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: exist
The WORST MOTHER IN THE WORLD can’t make a kid that fat without some genetic or physical problem.

Thank you, and to back you up:

Stunkard and colleagues found that adopted children developed a body mass index (BMI) similar to that of their biological parents. "Genetic influences have an important role in determining human fatness in adults, whereas the family environment alone has no apparent effect," his group wrote in the January 23, 1986, New England Journal of Medicine.

59 posted on 07/27/2009 1:44:07 PM PDT by dan1123 (Gov't Healthcare Plan: Break it and Take it.)
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To: Mase
I said total calories consumed vs. total calories burned. I'm not concerned with how many grams of fat, protein or carbs you consumed. I am only concerned with total calories.

Fiber has 4 calories per gram, but it cannot be used by the body.

60 posted on 07/27/2009 1:51:40 PM PDT by dan1123 (Gov't Healthcare Plan: Break it and Take it.)
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