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Selfish Gene Mutates, Dies a Metaphorical Death (Dawkins' selfish gene metaphore now "obsolete")
CEH ^ | July 24, 2009

Posted on 07/27/2009 8:36:25 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

July 24, 2009 — Richard Dawkins proposed in his book The Selfish Gene that a gene, being the target of natural selection and unit of replication, is the entity most likely to get passed on to posterity; as such, it is “selfish” in that the rest of the organism is really only incidental to its immortality. Dawkins expanded this into the “extended phenotype” – the idea that the gene extends its influence over the rest of the organism to ensure its own survival. Fern Elsdon-Baker, writing an opinion piece called “The Dawkins dogma” in New Scientist, called this the most successful scientific metaphor in the last 30 years – but now argues it is obsolete...

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1 posted on 07/27/2009 8:36:27 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: dennisw; allmendream; ElectricStrawberry; grey_whiskers; Wacka; UCANSEE2; goodusername; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/27/2009 8:38:14 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Really, is anything left of Darwin beyond the desire to have a godless creation?


3 posted on 07/27/2009 8:48:51 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So... the problem is not the concept but how he dumbs it down in analogy?


4 posted on 07/27/2009 8:51:48 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: editor-surveyor

Really, is anything left of Darwin beyond the desire to have a godless creation?
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Well, that and our desire to have as much sex with as many different creatures as possible.


5 posted on 07/27/2009 9:00:40 AM PDT by dmz
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To: GodGunsGuts

Dawkins himself is obsolete


6 posted on 07/27/2009 9:00:40 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: dmz

Go for it.


7 posted on 07/27/2009 9:13:50 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: FormerRep

The problem is that Dawkins evo-atheist creation myth bears little resemblence to how biology actually works, thus his metaphores and analogies are not based in reality, and quickly become obsolete.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 9:25:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Wasn’t there just a thread about how our genes were supposed to make us altruistic and want to share?


9 posted on 07/27/2009 9:32:20 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Yep, in the end, it all comes down to this:

I wonder if the Temple of Darwin drones who put up that sign realize that they are religious fanatics??? Talk about irony!

10 posted on 07/27/2009 9:37:21 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; metmom

Well at least liberals are being hoinest even when they didn’t mean to be, with their freedom FROM religion drivel.

And the evos wonder why they’re called liberals!

It’s freedom OF religion, darwiniacs.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 9:45:28 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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==It’s freedom OF religion

No can do...it’s against their religion...LOL!


12 posted on 07/27/2009 9:48:28 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

How ironic when evolutionists say that mankind has evolved to believe in God.

The evos are at least consistent in their inconsistency.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 9:59:21 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; editor-surveyor
Fern Elsdon-Baker, writing an opinion piece called “The Dawkins dogma” in New Scientist, called this the most successful scientific metaphor in the last 30 years – but now argues it is obsolete...

So while it was in vogue, a creationist who didn't accept science's proclamations about the selfish gene were treated how?

But now that *scientists* consider it obsolete, it's no longer valid, all the while creationists were saying so to begin with.

14 posted on 07/27/2009 10:02:21 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Temple of Darwin dogma demands it.


15 posted on 07/27/2009 10:12:16 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom

I think we’re just going to have to get used to...and come to think of it, the Evos are going to have to get used to it too :o)


16 posted on 07/27/2009 10:14:12 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Please explain.


17 posted on 07/27/2009 10:28:45 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: GodGunsGuts

Rarely have I seen such plain satire missed so completely. :-)


18 posted on 07/27/2009 10:33:06 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: goodusername

Actually, we picked up on the satire just fine. It is the exquisite irony that has been lost on the Temple of Darwin that we find so entertaining.


19 posted on 07/27/2009 10:56:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

It would only be ironic if it wasn’t meant as satire. :-)


20 posted on 07/27/2009 11:10:22 AM PDT by goodusername
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