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What would a illegitimate president do that is different from what Obama is doing?
1 posted on 07/26/2009 7:09:59 PM PDT by null and void
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2 posted on 07/26/2009 7:10:59 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 187 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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QUESTION: How can the OBAMA birth certificate said to have been officially “destroyed” in 2001 by the State of Hawaii — be later “examined” in 2008 by the Hawaii Health Dept and found to be valid?

State of Hawaii official Statement in October 2008:

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

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CNN President John Klein had asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Pres. Obama’s original birth certificate.


3 posted on 07/26/2009 7:12:44 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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I think the British law does not recognize multiple wives.
4 posted on 07/26/2009 7:13:10 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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State run media in process of trying to unring the bell now - good luck with that!


5 posted on 07/26/2009 7:13:14 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Who are YOU to question The One? </disgusted sarcasm>


6 posted on 07/26/2009 7:16:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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An honest president would find that this risk would far outweigh any personal embarrassment disclosure of the truth would cause him.

Well put.


7 posted on 07/26/2009 7:16:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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My main concern is for troops who may be grabbed by a nation like Iran. Suppose Iran puts them on trial as unlawful combatants and cites Obama as a illegitimate leader.

What does he do?

Does he allow those troops to go to trial because his pride won’t allow him to prove his legitimacy?
Does he launch a war to protect his pride.
Does he cave in to the demands and finally prove his legitimacy? (yes I actually hope he could)

None of these things are good. Even if he could prove his legitimacy, being forced to do so by a foreign govt would do serious damage to American standing in the world. Better that he prove it to “we the people” than be forced by a foreign entity.


8 posted on 07/26/2009 7:20:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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Hello Mister Morford.


13 posted on 07/26/2009 7:27:31 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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For the want of a $10 document, any hostile foreign power can, at any time, potentially take down the American government.

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And BO doesn’t give a rip!

I used to wish that one of the SCOTUS’s would secretly meet with, let’s say Orly, and tell her what they’re looking for in a lawsuit so it would get heard.

Gave up on that wish when someone told there is no Santa Claus.


16 posted on 07/26/2009 7:29:33 PM PDT by azishot (Please join the NRA.)
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Every American must demand to see his birth certificate; not that fake certicate of live birth, which is the Hawaiian equivalent of a fake green card. If there was ever a time to bring out the vicious lawyers, it is NOW!


18 posted on 07/26/2009 7:32:50 PM PDT by Rocketwolf68 (Bring back the crusades)
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To say otherwise would be to buy in to the absurdity that North Korea declaring that everyone on earth is a North Korean citizen would mean that no one is eligible to become the president of the United States!

This argument just doesn't work, here's why, We have no treaties with North Korea that would allow them to inflict their citizenship on our citizens, however we do have treaties with Great Britain that define who is a citizen of our country and who is a subject of theirs and dare I say it those treaties were written in blood from both our countries.

As a rogue state barely recognised by the world community North Korea could never convince any court of law that such an action would counter our own existing laws but our treaties with Great Britain are legally binding having been ratified by our congress, and their Parliment.

20 posted on 07/26/2009 7:37:58 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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25 posted on 07/26/2009 7:47:50 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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Factcheck deserves absolutely no credibility. As posted on another site, fact check has been lying to cover for Barry, which is no surprise:

“On July 17, 2009 CNN’s Kitty Pilgrim lied when she stated that the Obama campaign had produced “the original birth certificate” on the internet and that FactCheck.org had examined the original birth certificate; whether it was forged or not, the Certification of Live Birth that was posted by the campaign and FactCheck.org is not, and by definition, cannot be the original birth certificate or a copy of the original birth certificate. There were no computer generated Certifications of Live Birth in 1961, the year Obama was born. Obama’s original birth certificate (whether it was filed in 1961 or later) was a very different document from the Certification of Live Birth on FactCheck.org. On the FactCheck.org web site, the claim is made that “FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.” So FactCheck.org is lying about this as well.

FactCheck.org gets its prestige from a reputation for objectivity. Why would those who run this site choose to tell so obvious a lie and so endanger the site’s reputation? The answer is in the date of the posting, August 21, 2008. It was in mid-August that questions about the Certification of Live Birth began to reach a critical mass and threaten to enter the public discourse. The mostly pro-Obama television and newspaper/magazine media had to be given an excuse and cover for their collective decision to dismiss or ignore the substantial questions about whether Obama met the qualifications for the office set forth in Article II section I of the Constitution. And those reporters and editors who were not in the tank for Obama had to be deceived. After Labor Day the swing voters would begin to pay attention to the Presidential campaign. The truth had to be killed. And with its lie about “how it examined and photographed the original birth certificate“, FactCheck.org killed it.)”
http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697

26 posted on 07/26/2009 7:49:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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thanks...good post...


32 posted on 07/26/2009 7:56:19 PM PDT by surfer
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Isn’t it fascinating that a foreign power would have standing? But an American citizen apparently doesn’t, to see the birth certificate of their own president?

How could that possibly be?

And why doesn’t some judge explain it?

:: crickets ::


34 posted on 07/26/2009 8:01:32 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with 10 backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate.

The library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises. The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.

Now this story is starting to change. Some liberals in an open acknowledgement of Obama's problems are starting to call for a change in the constitution.Liberal defenders of Obama in full retreat on Birth CertificateNow The LA Times Wants To Amend the Constitution Rather Than Have Obama Show His Birth Certificate. (Translation: Yeah he’s not a Natural Born Citizen — As the Constitution Requires.)
40 posted on 07/26/2009 8:16:53 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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It all boils down to "standing". To have "standing" one needs to be able to demonstrate to an American court that they, personally have been damaged.

Who or what decided on this 'standing' rule. Where did it come from?
48 posted on 07/26/2009 9:10:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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“What would a illegitimate president do that is different from what Obama is doing?”

They are one in the same.They can’t be divided.


52 posted on 07/26/2009 9:31:22 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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I wish.


65 posted on 07/27/2009 8:38:28 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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