Posted on 07/26/2009 7:09:59 PM PDT by null and void
Vanity ping...
QUESTION: How can the OBAMA birth certificate said to have been officially “destroyed” in 2001 by the State of Hawaii — be later “examined” in 2008 by the Hawaii Health Dept and found to be valid?
State of Hawaii official Statement in October 2008:
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
___________________________________________
CNN President John Klein had asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Pres. Obama’s original birth certificate.
State run media in process of trying to unring the bell now - good luck with that!
Who are YOU to question The One? </disgusted sarcasm>
An honest president would find that this risk would far outweigh any personal embarrassment disclosure of the truth would cause him.
Well put.
My main concern is for troops who may be grabbed by a nation like Iran. Suppose Iran puts them on trial as unlawful combatants and cites Obama as a illegitimate leader.
What does he do?
Does he allow those troops to go to trial because his pride won’t allow him to prove his legitimacy?
Does he launch a war to protect his pride.
Does he cave in to the demands and finally prove his legitimacy? (yes I actually hope he could)
None of these things are good. Even if he could prove his legitimacy, being forced to do so by a foreign govt would do serious damage to American standing in the world. Better that he prove it to “we the people” than be forced by a foreign entity.
I am nothing and nobody.
I AM null and void!
And he doesn’t have his own, personal copy that he could show us? While the actual ‘original’ record may have been “discarded”, I’d find it hard to believe that for all these years he hasn’t kept at least one certified copy of the original.
Don't change the subject. We are discussing Obama...
LOL!
Hello Mister Morford.
I do not trust those words reported of Mr. k’Lein. He’s said to be too okay with lying.
For the want of a $10 document, any hostile foreign power can, at any time, potentially take down the American government.
___________________
And BO doesn’t give a rip!
I used to wish that one of the SCOTUS’s would secretly meet with, let’s say Orly, and tell her what they’re looking for in a lawsuit so it would get heard.
Gave up on that wish when someone told there is no Santa Claus.
Maybe why those forensic people said it was fake was it was a computer copy that had been used or given to someone in family. It still does not make him natural citizen, if he wasn't born here. The Kenya certificate is only chance “birthers” will have, and who knows if they even kept good records like most US courthouses.
It is my understanding the Kenya step Grandmother said his mother was too close to delivery to fly, so he was born in Kenya, and left shortly after...so she flew back in few days, and registered his birth. How, what was said, etc noone knows, but person who took information, and may not remember or no longer be here. His mother and grandmother here are dead, so don't expect anyone here to answer these questions.
The real answer is if Kenya kept any birth records or documents, and everything there was sealed by Raila Odinga, PM. This issue is still a mystery, as to whether his mother claimed his birth as Hawaii or Kenya, and what answers were written down and used to fill in record online. There seemed to be a fear of Corsi, last year when he went to Kenya and was detained, then had to leave the country...that is suspicious. It was like they were scared of what he might be looking for. I don't know answer to this one, but Indonesia might, as he was in school there, and had to supply birth records probably.
Every American must demand to see his birth certificate; not that fake certicate of live birth, which is the Hawaiian equivalent of a fake green card. If there was ever a time to bring out the vicious lawyers, it is NOW!
Which nation’s passport did he use when he travelled to Pakistan at a time when US citizens could not visit Pakistan? Was it an Indonesian passport? Why can’t ordinary citizens have these questions answered in a court of law?
To say otherwise would be to buy in to the absurdity that North Korea declaring that everyone on earth is a North Korean citizen would mean that no one is eligible to become the president of the United States!
This argument just doesn't work, here's why, We have no treaties with North Korea that would allow them to inflict their citizenship on our citizens, however we do have treaties with Great Britain that define who is a citizen of our country and who is a subject of theirs and dare I say it those treaties were written in blood from both our countries.
As a rogue state barely recognised by the world community North Korea could never convince any court of law that such an action would counter our own existing laws but our treaties with Great Britain are legally binding having been ratified by our congress, and their Parliment.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.