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Mormons: The Most Conservative Religious Group in America
The Atlantic ^ | July 24, 2009 | Chris Good

Posted on 07/24/2009 2:32:51 PM PDT by ComeUpHigher

Mormons: The Most Conservative Religious Group In America

That's according to a new report from Pew, released today and based on data from the group's 2007 U.S. Religious Landscape Survey.

More Mormons (60 percent) identify themselves as conservatives than any other religious group; they also lead every other group in GOP party identification (at 65 percent)--much higher than the general population in both categories

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: antimormonthread; christianvote; conservatism; gop; ldschurch; mormon; religion; stenchofromney
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To: lady lawyer
This is one place where, in the 20th century, aggressive, in-your-face bigotry is condoned and welcomed.

Fact #1: TODAY is the 21st century.

Fact #2: see the above for 19th century bigotry!

221 posted on 07/26/2009 4:41:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lady lawyer

Oh!

Did I mention that the LDS printing factory publishes this thousands of times a year?


222 posted on 07/26/2009 4:41:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jim Robinson

The commandment against “killing” is not absolute. We are permitted to kill in the military. We are permitted to kill in defense of ourselves or others. If you talk about “murder,” then you get into legal definitions.


223 posted on 07/26/2009 4:42:13 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Monkey Face
Anti-Mormons need to get used to the fact that the Mormons, no matter what is said about them, will NOT go away. Ever.

Tell this to the tares and wheat seperaters someday - it's getting no traction here.

224 posted on 07/26/2009 4:42:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dirtboy
Show just how Jim bashed Mormons on this thread - not a specific Mormon (Mitt Romney), but the Mormon faith.

Bash one of us and you bash us all.

--MormonDupe(We've learned that from our Glorious Founder!)

225 posted on 07/26/2009 4:44:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dirtboy
Now, what are the specific things Jim said that led you to attack him so in post 63?

Good luck on specifics.

CHARGES are all that matter!

226 posted on 07/26/2009 4:45:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lady lawyer

You left out the “good health” part, which opens it up to anything physical or mental. Its complete BS.


227 posted on 07/26/2009 4:45:54 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Elsie

So what? Most denominations would not exist if the founders had not decided existing denominations were somehow wrong. Protestantism would not exist had its founders not decided the Catholic church was corrupt.


228 posted on 07/26/2009 4:46:24 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: big'ol_freeper

No, it isn’t. I’ve already explained why.


229 posted on 07/26/2009 4:47:00 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: restornu

I wasn’t commenting about Romney, I was commenting on the very weak LDS position on abortion.


230 posted on 07/26/2009 4:48:39 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: lady lawyer

Well, I have to admit that I’m not the biblical scholar you seem to be. Please refer me to the scripture that says it’s ok to kill innocent life in the womb if it was conceived as a result of rape.


231 posted on 07/26/2009 4:50:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: lady lawyer; Elsie; SoConPubbie; Jim Robinson; ejonesie22
So what? Most denominations would not exist if the founders had not decided existing denominations were somehow wrong. Protestantism would not exist had its founders not decided the Catholic church was corrupt.

ROTFL! Said on a thread where the mormons are whining because FR allows debate on mormon beliefs!!!

Oh, the irony!

232 posted on 07/26/2009 4:51:06 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (There is no justice at the Dept. of Justice when Black Panthers are cleared for terrorizing voters.)
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To: Jean S; greyfoxx39; SoConPubbie

I have been here long enought to question why posters are accusing Jim of attacking a religion without any citations.
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I agree with you there...

But it appeared you were upset about further items...

In # 186 you asked Greyfoxx39

“Why do you hate Mormons?”

and in # 200 you said to SoConPubbie

“Your posts indicate hatred, not repudiation. Why don’t you just let it go?”

Personally I dont read those feelings into the posts of these wonderful FReepers...

As for me being a “newbie”, I know a 30 year old Jean S ... and she tends to jump to conclusions also...

She also could be regarded as being here since circa 1998..

She joined the adult population in the late 1990s..

But I would not claim she knows more than every person twice her age...

Eventhough I taught her about Jesus and conservatism myself...

BTW she was 18 months old when she marched in her first pro-life march, January 22, 1981...

18 months in the earthly website, and she was already sticking up for the unborn...


233 posted on 07/26/2009 4:51:25 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

Irony is what the LDS is all about...

Looks like I missed a party...


234 posted on 07/26/2009 4:53:54 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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To: lady lawyer
Ah, so there is no scriptural support, other than your interpretation of “context.”

Can you provide anything, either in context or out that supports your position that it is ok to murder unborn children?

Because, terminating the life of a human being, for no other cause except your emotional state, is murder.

True to your calling, you evaded the most important part of my post:

So I put it to you: Where in the bible do YOU find support for the right to kill your unborn child?
235 posted on 07/26/2009 4:54:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Jim Robinson

My point it, there’s no Biblical scripture saying that it isn’t. That’s why, even among Protestant denominations, you find different opinions about when abortion is, or isn’t permissible. And, I’m not a biblical scholar. I’ve taught the Old and New Testaments at various times, but, back in the 90’s, I was involved in abortion litigation, and I did some studying about the moral and legal underpinnings of abortion law.


236 posted on 07/26/2009 4:55:29 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: panaxanax
Why does it p**s you guys off so much when you find out that most Mormons are Conservative?

Possibly because NOW they ALSO want to be considered 'christian' - something that historically was ANTHAMA to them!


 
 
 

 

 
Statements by Mormon Leaders about Christian churches (made by many of the LDS Prophet-Presidents):
 
Joseph Smith stated that God told him: "they [other churches] were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:19).
 
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
 

 
 
 

237 posted on 07/26/2009 4:56:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
In a few cases like rape, incest and life is the exception.

No - it isn't.

When the PERPATRATOR of these crimea are KILLED along with the FETUS - THEN it might begin to be equalized.

238 posted on 07/26/2009 4:57:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
The Romney family never aborted even in a life or death situation.

That you know of...

239 posted on 07/26/2009 4:57:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lady lawyer; Jim Robinson
My point it, there’s no Biblical scripture saying that it isn’t. That’s why, even among Protestant denominations, you find different opinions about when abortion is, or isn’t permissible. And, I’m not a biblical scholar. I’ve taught the Old and New Testaments at various times, but, back in the 90’s, I was involved in abortion litigation, and I did some studying about the moral and legal underpinnings of abortion law.

Please provide specifics of any kind from the Bible, either in or out of context that would ever lead you to believe that killing an unborn child is something God would smile on.

I've read and re-read the bible over a thirty times from cover to cover and have never found anything that either explicitly or implicitly leads to the conclusion that God would be pleased with the Murder of one of his creations in whatever stage of life they maybe.

I wait breathlessly for you to prove otherwise.
240 posted on 07/26/2009 4:58:52 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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