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CNN Kills Birther Story (Dobbs under the bus by his boss)
Politico ^ | 7-24-09 | Ben Smith

Posted on 07/24/2009 1:27:45 PM PDT by STARWISE

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To: Star Traveler; Beckwith

See post in this thread by Beckwith. They don’t destroy records like that. This is just more obfuscation by the media brownshirts to throw off a few thousand people starting to really wonder about all of this.


101 posted on 07/24/2009 2:43:58 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Beckwith

Very nice catch on the Hawaiian Land Requirements switcheroo. Some Native Hawaiian with an interest in preserving the integrity of native-owned lands should file a FOIA on how and why that change was made, at whose behest, when the process was first brought up for consideration, who was involved in the discussions, etc.


102 posted on 07/24/2009 2:44:13 PM PDT by Eroteme
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To: a fool in paradise

What race is African? Is that like European or South American?

Not wanting to appear racist, or PC, Last time I looked, Caucasian, Negroid, and Mongoloid were the three races commonly found on official documents in the Mother’s race, and Father’s race sections.
Begging the question: Could it be that the person responsible for typing up the allegedly fraudulent COLB just couldn’t bring themselves to type a word so closely related to the “N” word?


103 posted on 07/24/2009 2:49:18 PM PDT by acehai
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To: Homer1

Even if it’s true that his “original” birth certificate was destroyed, the state should be able to issue a certified copy. In fact, in PA, if you ask for your birth certificate, you don’t get an original; you get a certified copy.

Smells bad to me.


104 posted on 07/24/2009 2:49:23 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: penelopesire

Actually, from what I’ve been reading, I believe the State of Hawaii actually did that... :-)

But, it really doesn’t make any difference, because an image file, which the state has, is what they’re going to use to print out a certified copy, anyway...


105 posted on 07/24/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Beckwith
Great information.

Yes, it is my understanding as well that to be a native Hawaiian (and be able to prove it) is a very, very big deal in Hawaii and entitles the natives to all kinds of benefits. You would think that the state of Hawaii, in particular, would have special protocols in place to definitively trace ancestry, birth, etc.

106 posted on 07/24/2009 2:54:26 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: a fool in paradise

Barack Obama’s been running for the White House for well over a decade now. Who made his 1995 autobiography a bestseller? How did a publisher consent to even publish an autobiography on an unknown?

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That’s always stuck out for me, too, and I’ve tracked it. It is curious .. story being that she was SO intrigued by his becoming the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, blah blah blah. Right ..this unknown, and she somehow picks him for stardom.

She pursued her book mission relentlessly, even in the face of passed deadlines, etc.

***Who knows? That election could’ve been fixed, too.***

Anyway, her name is Jane Dystel .. do some research. You’ll find a trail to follow when you link her and 0.

Her website:

http://www.dystel.com/

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Her latest is a book about the death of Michael Jackson.

“THIS Michael Jackson was it/wasn’t it murder is already a book proposal making publishers rounds. Title: “The Murder of Michael Jackson: Inside the Last Days of His Secret World.” Author: Ken Baker, an E! exec news editor with a Deep Throat source. Agent: Jane Dystel.”

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212009/gossip/cindy/ready_for_jacko_murder_mystery_180437.htm

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Search results: jane dystel obama

http://www.google.com/search?q=jane%20dystel%20obama&hl=en&ned=us&tab=nw


108 posted on 07/24/2009 2:54:45 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Eroteme

First sign was when the “fight the smear” site disappeared.

Websites come and go, but this one did so overnight and the only thing left in the Cache version was the Site frame. None of the documents.

Red flag went up then.

His minions are technically savvy. Never confuse technical ability with intelligence or wisdom.


110 posted on 07/24/2009 2:58:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Star Traveler

It doesn’t get Obama off of the hook, that’s for sure. He still hasn’t released his long form BC or any of his other ‘records’. The man is lying and he has many presstitutes frantically running around trying to stop all questions about Obama’s kingdom...lol

I smell a major scandal brewing with many lies about many things coming out in the end.


111 posted on 07/24/2009 3:01:51 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: F15Eagle
Is it cached in the Wayback Machine?

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112 posted on 07/24/2009 3:03:12 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: penelopesire

I think this boils it all down... actually...

No one has been able to get Obama to produce his birth certificate.
There is no legal requirement that Obama produce his birth certificate.
States can make laws requiring candidates to produce a birth certificate.

Once people understand that, they know exactly what their next step is — go to their state legislature and get the law passed... :-)


113 posted on 07/24/2009 3:04:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: fatnotlazy
Even if it’s true that his “original” birth certificate was destroyed...

Well, it's NOT true. It's a lie.

Click this, dated October 13, 2008, and read it:

Fukino statement

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."


114 posted on 07/24/2009 3:11:08 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: penelopesire
Obama has lived for almost 50 years without leaving any footprints -- none!  There is no Obama documentation -- no bona fides -- no paper trail -- nothing.

 Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released -- Lawyers fees -- greater than $1,000,000 -- birth certificate -- $15.
Certification of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released Obama/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Kindergarten records -- Records lost (this is a big one -- see here -- read two frames)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released

Fransiskus Assisi School  School application -- Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School records -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)

Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport -- Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama's terrorism and intelligence adviser.
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament" -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None

Illinois Bar Records -- Not released.
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None


The Illinois State Archives told Judicial Watch that they never received any request from Senator Obama to archive any records in his possession.  In 2007, Obama told Tim Russert that his records were "not kept."

And there's less on the web every day.  In time, the entire Obama body of knowledge will consist of 3 documents -- "Dreams From My Father" -- "The Audacity of Hope" -- and the latest -- "Change We Can Believe In" -- all written by Barack Hussein Obama or his "ghost-writers."


Just an accident?  I don't think so.

115 posted on 07/24/2009 3:13:30 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Star Traveler

I know that has been your position from the beginning and it’s a good one as far as something we need to make sure is done before 2012. However, if Obama has committed document fraud(and the evidence is pretty convincing imho), then he has committed a crime and should be prosecuted and impeached. If he has lied to the American people in his book about his background, the people have a right to know. If he went to college on a foreign visa, then the American people have a right to know.

Our country might not survive until 2010...much else 2012.


116 posted on 07/24/2009 3:20:01 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Beckwith

It’s stunning, isn’t it? Any one of those things would have been an outrage to the media if it had been done by President Bush or McCain. But not with Obama. I finally figured out why the media seems so scared at Obama’s press events. They are afraid to ask him unrehearsed questions because they have so much invested in him. Like Rush said...Obama is the corrupt American media’s Waterloo.


117 posted on 07/24/2009 3:24:26 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

I do understand what you’re saying in terms of withstanding a liberal onslaught..., but it does come down to what one might call a “game plan” (if you will).

Can anyone address the “if” statements you made? Namely, can someone provide the proof that is needed in order to get “fraud” shown absolutely and in a court of law? That’s the big “if” ...

I believe that one could just about *guarantee* that with state laws, we’ll be able to force the issue with the birth certificate. However, I don’t quite see the “guarantee” with those “if” statements you made.

That’s what I mean by “game plan” — as in which “game plan” is going to succeed and lead to the end-result...

I hope you see what I mean...


118 posted on 07/24/2009 3:27:01 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Beckwith

that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

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Giving NO qualification of just WHAT they have. The original birth certificate could’ve document his spawning on Pluto. That statement does nothing to clarify the citizenship issue, correct ?


119 posted on 07/24/2009 3:35:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Star Traveler

The ‘game plan’ is to pursue this until the truth comes out and Obama is forced to release all of the documents he is hiding from the American people. The burden of proof is on Obama..not us. The very fact that he would rather spit in the face of the American people and our constitution by refusing to release anything is reasonable doubt. That is all we need to influence public opinion and get him in court eventually. That is why the Obots and the media are all scared witless.


120 posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:13 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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