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House healthcare talks break down in anger
The Hill ^ | 7/24/2009 | Jared Allen

Posted on 07/24/2009 1:09:57 PM PDT by KansasGirl

House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders.

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations.

“Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America,” Melancon said...

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"Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon said there would be 40-45 “solid no” votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; arra; bhohealthcare; bluedogcoalition; bluedogdemocrats; bluedogs; cbc; congress; democrathealthcare; democrats; healthcare; henrywaxman; obama; obamacare; pelosi; rahm; socializedmedicine; waxman
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To: Jeff Head
Looks like BH0's hope will get a healthy dose of change. Not exactly as he envisioned, no?

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.

Oh, dear...


161 posted on 07/24/2009 5:10:30 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Bokababe

The Wiki entry on Blue Dog Democrats is actually pretty interesting and gives a list of all of them in Congress, as well as a history of where they came from.
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Expect it to be scrubbed, later tonight...


162 posted on 07/24/2009 5:10:43 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: MichiganConservative

If they fail with this, they will simply pass it in pieces. Or they will pass it in the next PATRIOT act like abomination.

We must take the country back. If it fails, it doesn’t mean you’ve won and the statists and commies are beaten.

You cannot stop because they will not.

We must turn the tide. We must roll back their hold on the country. Take the country back.
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Very wise sentiments - thank you.


163 posted on 07/24/2009 5:15:53 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Marysecretary

Is Reid really just a corpse?
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Weekend at Harry’s?


164 posted on 07/24/2009 5:17:46 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Marty62

The threats must be coming hot and heavy from the Zero Admin.
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We should call them the zeros - like the Japanese WWII planes...let’s shoot ‘em down!!


165 posted on 07/24/2009 5:23:10 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: KansasGirl; All
and she said he is not decided yet

You know what...I think it is time we stop accepting that answer. The truth is if there is one unconstitutional part of the bill...it is unconstitutional and ALL congress persons hold the oath of office too...do what?

They claim to have not decided, but We The People have decided. They represent us and we surround them.

We need to let them know the phrase, "Not decided," is not acceptable. Dear Congress Critter let me introduce you to Mr. Fire, Mr. Fire this is Congress Critters feet.

166 posted on 07/24/2009 5:23:30 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Did Waxman later walk out of a metting with Pelosi? Could be I heard the news wrong but I thought I heard on Cavuto that Waxman stormed out of a meeting!
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Mebbe, he stormed out, after the Blue Dogs stormed out...wouldn’t want to be out-stormed...:)


167 posted on 07/24/2009 5:25:10 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SeattleBruce

“Of that you can be sure...the politburo, always gets the fine cigars, liquor, cheeses and doctors...”

IF they end up being the politboro. A lot of people who supported the Communists didn’t realize that they were just tools to be tossed aside.


168 posted on 07/24/2009 5:25:33 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Bokababe

Democrat is now going to be synonym for “Aristocrat.” Republican will now be known as “The public” who will not be part of the party therefore part of the peasantry.


169 posted on 07/24/2009 5:27:26 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: EBH

“They claim to have not decided, but We The People have decided. They represent us and we surround them.”
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Go to their offices and literally surround them...we did that the other day - July 17th people protested at every Congressional office in the nation...those were Tea Partiers...:)


170 posted on 07/24/2009 5:27:52 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Our country is being led by zombies...


171 posted on 07/24/2009 5:30:36 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Enterprise

And I think YOU are right!


172 posted on 07/24/2009 5:31:13 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Niuhuru

IF they end up being the politboro. A lot of people who supported the Communists didn’t realize that they were just tools to be tossed aside.
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Of course. We’re stating these things to prove a salient point about the marxist intentions of our current ‘leaders.’


173 posted on 07/24/2009 5:33:27 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SeattleBruce

Well, he does look stoned...


174 posted on 07/24/2009 5:41:03 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: the long march

Yep they are. Space is my rep and after the clean energy vote he looked like he was literally shaking on the local TV channel telling everyone how the other side was lying about the bill. He’d better NOT vote for this or he is done, IMHO. If Ney hadn’t have went to jail he’d still be representing us.


175 posted on 07/24/2009 5:59:24 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: KansasGirl

At times like this, I really miss CommonTator.


176 posted on 07/24/2009 6:00:17 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were "lied" to by their Democratic leaders... Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said... there would be 40-45 "solid no" votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.

177 posted on 07/24/2009 7:12:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Good ole Ike, you know he is going to hold the party line.

He was my rep when I lived in Jeff, the guy sickens me.


178 posted on 07/24/2009 7:29:34 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: tbw2
They need 218. If the Repubs toe the line they have 176 Noes plus 40 blue dogs, and that gives the Republicans 216 which means that there can be no other dissensions on the Dem side which is very unlikely. The big blow is Obama going under 50% approval not to mention the fact he is currently in heap of big trouble over his “stupid” comment. I think you are getting ready to see Dems start voting to save their skin and stop voting to please Rahm.
179 posted on 07/24/2009 7:48:59 PM PDT by lt.america (Looking for a bailout)
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To: KansasGirl

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttzzzzzzzzz!

180 posted on 07/24/2009 7:53:20 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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