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House healthcare talks break down in anger
The Hill ^ | 7/24/2009 | Jared Allen

Posted on 07/24/2009 1:09:57 PM PDT by KansasGirl

House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders.

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations.

“Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America,” Melancon said...

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"Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon said there would be 40-45 “solid no” votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 111th; arra; bhohealthcare; bluedogcoalition; bluedogdemocrats; bluedogs; cbc; congress; democrathealthcare; democrats; healthcare; henrywaxman; obama; obamacare; pelosi; rahm; socializedmedicine; waxman
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To: KansasGirl

Waxman is a different species .


101 posted on 07/24/2009 2:15:34 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: KansasGirl

Waxman will be hunting truffles this summer.


102 posted on 07/24/2009 2:16:16 PM PDT by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: Jeff Head

holy cow!


103 posted on 07/24/2009 2:16:22 PM PDT by timestax (CNNLIES..BIG TIME)
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To: glock rocks

It’s that whole “Honor amoung thieves” thingy.


104 posted on 07/24/2009 2:16:33 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer...)
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To: All

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Attention fellow Texans:

Governor Rick Perry may invoke the 10th Amendment over Obama’s health care bill (Vanity)
7/23/09 | Cowtowney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2299225/posts?q=1&;page=51

Join this organization and just say no to Obamadeathcare.
Send a message; ‘No! NO you don’t, you muzzie pos. You’re not denying our seniors deserved health care while insuring millions of illegal aliens and while Demorats are REJECTING Obamacare for themselves and their families!’

From the website:
The Alliance of Texans Against Government Controlled Healthcare:
http://www.notintexas.org/

office (972) 466-2915
fax (972) 466-2965
toll-free (866) 377-1300

We are currently contacting Governor Rick Perry by fax and mail!

We have made it easy for you to help. Click here to display the letter and contact information.
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Petition to STOP government controlled healthcare in Texas
Read and sign the petition
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Dear Governor Perry,

On March 30, 2009 the Texas House of Representatives passed HCR 50 affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment.

You have publicly supported this bill, and stated that attorney generals from all over the union could be getting ready to sue the US Government.

We are asking you to take the lead.

We are asking you to order the Texas Attorney General to publicly begin working on a law suit under Article IV, Ninth, and Tenth Amendment of the Constitution.

We are asking you to protect the citizens of Texas that we will not stand for government controlled healthcare in our state.

Under your leadership we can effectively kill the proposal of this administration and allow Texas to be a state free from socialism and collectivism.

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Phone: (512) 463-2000
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From ‘Texans Against Government Controlled health Care’
http://www.notintexas.org/

To all Texas elected officials:

“Don’t Mess with Texas” has been a proud motto in the Lone Star State. Now with Government controlled socialized healthcare appearing inevitable, we say “NOT IN TEXAS!” We ask our elected officials to cite the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as the reason why Texas rejects and will not accept the U.S. Government takeover of our healthcare system!

The 10th Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

States’ rights, in the United States, is political doctrine advocating the strict limitation of the prerogatives of the federal government to those powers explicitly assigned to it in the Constitution of the United States, and reserving to the states all other powers not explicitly forbidden them. The doctrine of states’ rights has been the cause of bitter controversy at several periods in U.S. history.

The impending death of free market healthcare is an important issue that will again cause bitter controversy.

If the cause of defending our free market healthcare is a worthy cause, we in Texas must stand up and say: “NOT IN TEXAS”.

We in Texas will not stand idly by and allow the U.S. Federal Government to eliminate our free market healthcare system by incrementally changing and ultimately replacing it with a Government controlled socialized Healthcare system.

“NOT IN TEXAS”

Where are the Texas politicians?

The Alliance of Texans against Government Controlled Healthcare is insisting upon the immediate action of all Texas Politicians. Tell the U.S. Government: Government controlled healthcare may be adopted in other states, but…NOT IN TEXAS.

Tell the U.S. Government that Government Controlled Healthcare will never be allowed in Texas. Texans still believe in individual freedom and individual responsibility.

The saving of our free market healthcare system is one of the most important tasks ever to face Texas.

When are we going to hear Texas politicians saying: “The Government Controlled Socialized Healthcare stops at the Texas border!”

The Texas citizens are waiting to hear from you. We don’t have much time. President Obama wants a healthcare bill out by August 1st.

Tell the news media loud and clear: “NOT IN TEXAS”

We hope to see and hear your stand in the media in the next days to come.

P.S. Once Texas politicians make their stand, you will see other states standing up for State’s rights. Let the Lone Star state of Texas stand first.

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From Texans Against Government Controlled Health Care

http://www.notintexas.org/

Facts about the 10th Amendment:

The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution’s principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.

Why Texans should fight National Healthcare:

When all of America’s top health insurers and providers met at the White House this week and pledged to save $2 trillion over the next decade in health costs, they were pledging to sabotage our medical care. The blunt truth, which everybody (the politicians and healthcare providers) agreed to keep quiet, is that the only way to reduce these costs is to ration healthcare, thereby destroying our system. http://www.notintexas.org/Front_4.htm

>Cutting Doctors’ fees will reduce access. Your doctor may not accept the government health plan. Congress is wanting to cut Medicare fees by 21 percent. Cuts in Medicare reimbursements will spill into the government health plan and ultimately limit the number of doctors and hospitals that will accept the government plan.

>Much like the HMO’s of the 80’s your doctor access will be restricted to the few doctors who will accept the socialized plan.

>Limiting the availability of doctors and hospitals will have many devastating effects. Most threatening are:

>Over crowding waiting rooms

Backlog of medical testing i.e. CAT scans, MRI, PET scans etc...

>Rationing of Health Care

>Reduction of quality college students choosing medicine as a profession.

>With our aging population, quality health care providers needed now more than ever.

>We can pay with our lives. The federal government want us to believe they can “mandate away” 2 trillion dollars of medical expenses. We have learned from our friends from the north (the Canadians), the best way to reduce cost is to ration care.

>Government bureaucrats will pour over data and decide what the best means of care will be for the largest number of patients.
If medical condition differs from the government guidelines, it will NOT be paid by the government.
Should your doctor(s) decide the government allowed treatment is not for you, your doctors hands will be tied. If you don’t have the financial means to pay for your treatment elsewhere, it could cost you your life.
In Canada, colonoscopies are rationed for colon cancer. Canada’s colon cancer rate is 25 percent higher than in the U.S. even though Canada’s population is smaller.

>We know from history, once a government program of this nature is passed, whether it is a total failure or not, it will NEVER be rescinded.

Solution:

Texans can reject, and refuse to pay for, the federal government health plan. Texas will attract the BEST trained, MOST experienced doctors (and upcoming doctors) in the country. Texas will be the envy of every state in the union.

The truth about government controlled healthcare:
Government healthcare is failing miserably in Massachusetts
If you think a government run healthcare system can work and be more affordable, read this... http://www.notintexas.org/Front_5.htm

Article from the Washington Examiner 1/11/09:
“Obama’s health policy advisers should take a good look at the smoldering wreckage in the Bay State before trying to impose any such “universal coverage” on the rest of the nation.” Link http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Universal_coverage_First_look_at_the_disaster_in_Massachusetts_011109.html

More interesting reading - Free Market Cure
http://www.freemarketcure.com/

Medicare - What is all the fuss about?
Medicare (and health insurance) is a political football. The aging baby boomers are currently contributing more tax dollars to the Medicare Trust Fund than they ever will again in our lifetime. In 2011, the first baby boomers will become eligible for Medicare, and many of them will retire, no longer contributing to the tax base.
Instead, they will become consumers of the Medicare system and begin to tap into the very funds they contributed to Medicare for more than 40 years. Within a few decades, we will suffer massive deficits caused by Medicare, Medicaid (welfare—long term care) and Social Security.
There is simply not a way to finance the Medicare system long term by raising taxes. Even if taxes were raised by 50 percent of the current rate, there still would not be enough money to fund the Medicare Part A Trust Fund for the long term.
The current Part A trust is expected to pay more than it takes in by 2019, and some are estimating this will begin to occur as early as 2016.

HCR 50 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE 99-36!
Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.

Take Action! Before it is too late!


105 posted on 07/24/2009 2:18:01 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Yankee
KILL IT. NOBODY WANTS THAT FREAKIN' THING.

Zero do.

well that, and I wanted to update my tagline.

106 posted on 07/24/2009 2:19:16 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, like gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary

Now don’t forget Nancy. She too is a corpse.

Just that it’s so hard to tell with all the botox and plastic surgery.


107 posted on 07/24/2009 2:20:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: KansasGirl

really good news.


108 posted on 07/24/2009 2:20:48 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: saganite
I hope you’re not that naive. The ruling class will not be covered by this bill. They will retain separate and far superior coverage.

They're the naive ones. Once they're no longer needed, they'll get thrown under the bus and their benefits will get yanked. In the end, only the ruling class will retain decent benefits and Congress won't always be a part of it. Especially not the useful idiots in there now.

109 posted on 07/24/2009 2:21:09 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: olrtex
One can only hope, but I expect most of the Blue Dog Democrats will roll over and play dead when Dog Whisperer Pelosi cracks the whip,

OTOH, they could be realizing that they could lose their re-elections if they go along with the Democrat Titanic.

110 posted on 07/24/2009 2:25:13 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: lt.america
How close is the margin on this passing? ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
111 posted on 07/24/2009 2:29:24 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: KansasGirl

As much as I hate to say it,These Reps need support. The threats must be coming hot and heavy from the Zero Admin.


112 posted on 07/24/2009 2:40:15 PM PDT by Marty62
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To: KansasGirl

Wow! Did this Blue Lap Dog just figure out that the Libs lie?

I guess they’re a bit slow.


113 posted on 07/24/2009 2:43:17 PM PDT by tobyhill (The Communist are here)
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To: LdSentinal
Ellen Tauscher (liberal Democrat from CA-10) resigned last month. so Democrats are down to 254 members.

Which means I have no dog in this fight, Blue or otherwise!

114 posted on 07/24/2009 2:45:50 PM PDT by ssaftler (OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: olrtex

“Dog Whisperer Pelosi cracks the whip,”

ROTFLOL!!


115 posted on 07/24/2009 2:46:06 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Red_Devil 232
Could be I heard the news wrong but I thought I heard on Cavuto that Waxman stormed out of a meeting!

Interesting concept.

A weasel storming out of a room.

116 posted on 07/24/2009 2:49:37 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: patriot08

I guess you know that if obamakill is passed we will all be moving to TX.


117 posted on 07/24/2009 2:51:29 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: WVNan
I guess you know that if obamakill is passed we will all be moving to TX.

If it passes hopefully it will be the sovereign nation of Texas and I can acquire my citizenship.

118 posted on 07/24/2009 3:00:06 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jeff Head
the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age.

Every time I think about that section it infuriates me.

119 posted on 07/24/2009 3:00:15 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: KansasGirl

LALALA.... as I go whistling merrily off into the shade of a day done right!

Oh Nancy is in a pickle now, she cant risk bring the thing to the floor for defeat, because that shatters her Party, she can’t hand the Prez a defeat that big.

And at the same time, she has to do it now or risk losing face and personal power.... the Dems will suddenly have the freedom to vote their conscious instead of Nancy’s little barn dance two-step.

Oh its a great day to see Nancy so thoroughly caught in a trap of her own making. It is truly lovely!


120 posted on 07/24/2009 3:01:29 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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