Posted on 07/22/2009 3:18:21 PM PDT by pissant
As if Barack Obama doesn’t have enough going on….
This issue of his birth certificate just isn’t going away. For those of you who usually steer clear of news from the fringe: There is a small but insistent element of the public — hereafter referred to as “birthers” — that claims President Obama is not an American citizen, and therefore not qualified to be president.
The “certification of live birth” issued by the state of Hawaii on Aug. 8, 1961, and readily viewable online is deemed inauthentic. Obama, the claim usually goes, was born in Kenya, his father’s native country.
Enter Liz Cheney, daughter of the former vice president and an increasingly visible conservative on the cable TV circuit.
On Tuesday night, appearing on CNN’s “Larry King,” she was asked about birthers, and did not denounce them outright — a reaction that has set off the left. Left-wing bloggers are now saying she “defended” birthers, which isn’t really true, but that’s become the talking point.
“I think the Democrats have got more crazies than the Republicans do,” Ms. Cheney said. “But setting that aside, one of the reasons you see people so concerned about this, I think this issue is, people are uncomfortable with having for the first time ever, I think, a president who seems so reluctant to defend the nation overseas … ”
(snip)
For the record, even if Obama had not been born in the US, he would still be eligible for the presidency. His mother was a US citizen, and that makes Obama a “natural-born citizen,” as required by the Constitution.
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“that claims President Obama is not an American citizen”
Stopped reading there. Yet another libdolt hack who apparently is too stupid, too ignorant, too partisan, or all three to even state this part properly. Hint to you libdolts: The question is whether obama is a NATURAL BORN US citizen as required by the Constitution (check your bathroom toilet paper holder for your copy), not whether he is “an American citizen.”
Sheesh.
To be clear and correct the issue is whether barry is natural born or not.It is NOT as obamites keep trying to say a question of whether he is a citizen or not.
Words matter
His “ vault “ copy would answer that quite quickly.
You are quicker than I
and still there will be obamites who will spout the citizen crap over and over.
It’s always the same reflexive responses with the media; completely ignorant of the facts.
>>There is a difference and these screw heads in the media can’t even get that part right.<<
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These screwheads want you to think that they don’t have that part right. They know damn well what it’s all about but they’re only pretending that they don’t know the score.
They are the MSM and are therefore Obama’s army. You can’t expect the MSM to ever question Obama’s background even if they had all the information.
Yes, as they continue to SCRUB the internet to make it harder to find out the truth.
Here are six examples of deletion or modification that have taken place since approximately July 1, 2009) -- URLs posted below for reference:
-- Please post if you know of more --
1) the entire “Fight the Smears” website has been removed from the internet, and the archive of the website has been removed at the request of the owners from Archive.org:
Current website: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate (removed OFF the internet)
Archive.org cache: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate (removed per owner request -- verified by Archive.org staff)
Archive (from Google Cache): http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:e8a9IzE5fSsJ:fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate+fight+the+smears&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
2) the Department of Hawaiian Homelands has removed from their website the “Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula - Applying for Hawaiian Home Lands” pamphlet AND changed their website to reflect that they NOW accept the Certification of Live Birth (the ONLY document Mr. Obama has come forward with to show his birthplace). See more on that story here: Hawaii upgrades ‘certification of live birth’ (requirement):
Current website: http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl (changed)
Archive.org: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl (removed per owner request)
The “Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula” pamphlet: http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa%20Ka%20Aina%20Hoopulapula.pdf (removed)
The “Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula” pamphlet “View as HTML” archive (Google): http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Veru1NU4Zf0J:hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/Loaa%2520Ka%2520Aina%2520Hoopulapula.pdf+Loaa+Ka+Aina+Hoopulapula&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
3) the Kapi’olani Medical Center website has removed the letter where Mr. Obama clearly says he was born at the Kapi’olani Medical Center:
Current website: http://www.kapiolanigift.org/centennial.aspx?id=1728 (Obama letter removed)
on Archive.org: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kapiolanigift.org/centennial.aspx?id=1728 (removed per owner request)
Archived screenshot: http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/stevesharp2918/Fromarchivedwebsite-ObamaKapiolaniL.jpg
4) the Nov. 5, 2008, Kenya Parliament Official Report, when Kenyan legislators and Assembly witnesses say things such as "having a Kenyan ruling the USA", "President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country", and "we have a leader of a great country in this world whose blood is Kenyan" has been removed:
Current website: http://www.bunge.go.ke/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/5.11.08A.pdf (removed)
Archive.org: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bunge.go.ke/downloads/Tenth%20Parl%201st%20Session/Hansard/5.11.08A.pdf (removed per owner request)
Archived on Scribed: http://www.scribd.com/doc/9606845/Kenyan-National-Assembly-Wednesday-5th-November-2008-51108A
5) the July 9, 2009 Modern Ghana story, that says, "For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth" -- has been changed. The last part of the sentence NOW reads, "presidential visit to the continent of his father's birth."
Current website: http://www.modernghana.com/news/226379/1/history-beckons-as-prez-obama-arrives-tomorrow.html (changed -- and "the continent of his father's birth" is in BLUE), changed on July 16, 2009.
Archived screenshot: http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:eL4lIWE2TxAJ:www.modernghana.com/print/226379/1/history-beckons-as-prez-obama-arrives-tomorrow.html+history-beckons-as-prez-obama-arrives-tomorrow&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
6) the famed Nov. 4, 2008, API story that says, "Obama described his birth at Queen's Medical Center" was changed to reflect that the hospital of birth is Kapi’olani Medical Center.
Current website: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/04/Sen-Barack-Obama-Democrat-of-Illinois/UPI-33901225647000 (changed). Note at bottom: "This item was corrected July 8, 2009, to fix the name of the hospital where Obama was born. The original item incorrectly identified the facility as Queen's Hospital, an error made by the writer.")
Fear. I smell FEAR.
Today has been a very busy day in the press and in the blogosphere on the ‘natural born” citizen Constitutional issue yet almost every single publication reports the issue falsely.
Let me ask - Can a thread be created that lists all of the publications today (or since the Cook story) in one single thread?
Possibly with contact information for each?
I did call Rep. Mike Castle’s D.C. office today and got into it with whoever answered the phone. He kept trying to spout the same false information as well. I kept correcting him and asking him to pass his conversation with me on to Rep. Castle and for Congress to do it’s job and not wait for a Consitutional crisis to develop.
I really think this issue has to be pushed some more. Why aren’t the media doing it’s job? Or Congress? Or the Courts? Are these people really this stupid that they can not get any of the facts of this issue correct?
These media people need to be pressured to tell the truth on this issue and Congress and the Courts need to be pressured to do their jobs.
After seeing these reports today and as to how much false information is being pushed I am becoming more convinved that it needs to be resolved.
Man this is getting almost surreal, how long can this go on ignored?
Note, please this comes out after the images among them one showing the stamp on the back of the online document image as dated in 2007) are being scrubbed from the web. What timing! Sheesh!
>That means we’re scaring them big time.
Think that has anything to do with the volume of firearms and ammunition being procured?
For the record the reporterette doesn't know what she's talking about. Federal law that existed at the time Obama was born required that the parent be a citizen of the United States, a resident of the US for at least 10 years, 5 of which had to be after the age of 14 for a child to be a citizen at birth. Obama's mother was 18 at the time he was born, he is not a US citizen by birth.
Actually, for the first time ever, we have a president who is openly antagonistic toward the USA, and is deliberately going about the business of destroying us economically and politically.
This is precisely the reason the framers of the Constitution put the "natural born citizen" requirement in the document. The history of Europe had several examples of royalty hopping from country to country, seizing control, to the detriment of all the people. They wished to avoid such in the USA. This treason by the media, the Democrats, and the RINOs should not be lightly forgiven.
Liberals fear exposure more than anything which includes their lies, their corruption, their treason, and everything in between.
exactly - and theyve trotted out the clinton playbook in trying to discredit them - the closer we get the louder they are - this is good
>I really think this issue has to be pushed some more.
Indeed so. It needs to be pushed and pushed on until something breaks, IMO.
>Why aren’t the media doing it’s job?
They haven’t been doing their job in DECADES... why should they start now?
>Or Congress?
Because they are so corrupt that they FEAR any light-of-truth. Their inaction is perhaps treasonous.
>Or the Courts?
Because they, too, are corrupt. They refuse to uphold the rights of the people, such as the forced invalidation of the contractually obligated bonds (GM/Chrysler) by the Executive branch. They refuse to uphold the Constitution’s barring against Ex Post Facto law, as evidenced by the AIG-Bonus Tax Act. They refuse to hear any claimant against Barak Obama’s elegibility. Not only do they refuse to hang Murtha for his demonstrable, and public, treason; but they go so far as to deny the right of people to sue him for slander!
>Are these people really this stupid that they can not get any of the facts of this issue correct?
I think we are faced with a cabal of corrupt, lawless traitors and are rapidly approaching the point of bloodshed.
Geez Red, I can’t think of anymore obvious “exposure” that all this treason, perversion and Marxism is getting!! Man, there are some brain-dead Americans!
110% affirmative! Also, a better word for birther would be American. We’re Americans!
You wrote-
“That means we’re scaring them big time.”
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