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To: pissant

I am telling you that there is not a shred of evidence that he was not born in Hawaii.

Isn’t that the burden of the people who say he wasn’t?

His application for a passport to indonesia listed his place of birth as Hawaii.

Were his parents lying that about that?


26 posted on 07/22/2009 2:03:20 PM PDT by JRochelle ("I wasn't briefed about the briefing, I was only informed." SanFranNan.)
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To: JRochelle
I am telling you that there is not a shred of evidence that he was not born in Hawaii. Isn’t that the burden of the people who say he wasn’t?

There isn't a shred of evidence to show that I am negligent in child support payments or even have sired any children. But the TDL requires that I present my social security CARD (not just the number) to them so they can run a background check to verify I am not a deadbeat dad.

Without a birth certificate in hand, he would be inelligible for a number of other documents.

We don't have to prove where he WAS born, he needs to prove he was born where he claims to have been born. Burden of proof goes to the applicant for the job.

33 posted on 07/22/2009 2:06:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: JRochelle

Don’t know, don’t care. let’s see the long form, right ****ing now.


43 posted on 07/22/2009 2:10:06 PM PDT by chris37
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To: JRochelle
His application for a passport to indonesia

There's no such thing as a "passport to Indonesia". What are you saying?

44 posted on 07/22/2009 2:10:21 PM PDT by 386wt (Clinging to my clunker here in Ruralville...)
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To: JRochelle

There is PLENTY of evidence of malfeasance.

For starters: The COLB he produced is fake. PERIOD.

The burden of proof is on the applicant, not the employer.


45 posted on 07/22/2009 2:10:57 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: JRochelle

Why not? They lied when Ann Married Obama Sr. They couldn’t legally get married but they supposedly did anyway in Maui.

Did they lie when they said Barry was an Indonesian on his school application... Why lie?

Obama has been caught in many lies.
It is a pattern.

By the way, do you know where I can see the picture of the black man peeling off his skin that Obama says he say in LIFE magazine.>THAT WAS NEVER THERE?


46 posted on 07/22/2009 2:11:00 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: JRochelle

His mother reportedly had a marriage license, no?

You have to be single to be married in this country.

And yet Obama’s father was a bigamist/polygamist.

Did his parents lie on that form?


56 posted on 07/22/2009 2:14:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: JRochelle

“Isn’t that the burden of the people who say he wasn’t?”

No, actually the rest of us non-Messiahs have to prove where we were born.

What’s your emotional stake in defending Barry? It’s all too obvious he has no evidence that he’s an American, or else he would have showed it to us long ago! There’s the closed school records, the missing kindergarten records, the varying Obama stories about which Hawaii hospital he was supposedly born at, the fake birth notice put on library microfilm! ... I’d be truly surprised at this point to see proof that Obama was born in the USA.


63 posted on 07/22/2009 2:17:18 PM PDT by devere (.)
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To: JRochelle
Read this, then get back to me:

"HOW COULD STANLEY ANN DUNHAM HAVE DELIVERED BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA JR. IN AUGUST OF 1961 IN HONOLULU, WHEN OFFICIAL UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON RECORDS SHOW HER 2680 MILES AWAY IN SEATTLE ATTENDING CLASSES THAT SAME MONTH?"

President Little? (aka President X?)
81 posted on 07/22/2009 2:25:44 PM PDT by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: JRochelle; pissant
jr, the issue is whether he is a natural born citizen. This, he can only be, if he is born on American soil of American parents.

As his father was Kenyan, this means he is not natural born.

What we have is a Constitutional Crisis which he has taken advantage of - but this Crisis is not of his doing; the corruption inherent in the dhimmicrat party and are privy to first the housing crisis, and now to the fascist makeover of our government feeds it; the spinelessness of the republican party in that not One. Single. Patriot. has come from their ranks to challenge this, enables it; the judges who have rebuffed the several tens of lawsuits claiming "no merit" or "no standing" (as if a citizen of the United States has no standing to enquire about whether someone sitting in the White House is eligible to serve as POTUS) have forsaken their duties regarding it.

We have 536 elected officials and the nine supremes who have failed their duties, forsworn their oaths and betray the Constitution.

And this is the kind of leadership which the NIC has promised us? This doubt which infects the body politic and the morale of our military, which can be dispensed with by spending around 100 dollars (obama gets over 200K for "leading" us...) and allowing examination of his long form birth certificate... this is the problem???

He leads this nation into the abyss.

Jefferson's Tree beckons...

JG

112 posted on 07/22/2009 3:02:16 PM PDT by Jacksonian Grouch (God has granted us Freedom; we owe Him our courage in return)
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To: JRochelle

Birth certificate - long form.

It’s the only currency that counts. They challenged McCain for it - he coughed it up - took an hour.

You’d rather, perhaps, we amend the constitution than take the hour it would take to put the matter to bed?

We ask parents to establish the age of their kids for little league with a BC, and they do it.

He can put this to bed in an hour. Why hasn’t he?


132 posted on 07/22/2009 4:32:29 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: JRochelle
I am telling you that there is not a shred of evidence that he was not born in Hawaii.

There's not a shred of evidence that he was born in Hawaii, either. Therein lies the heart of the controversy.

136 posted on 07/22/2009 4:56:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: JRochelle
I am telling you that there is not a shred of evidence that he was not born in Hawaii.

You logic is backwards.. of course there no evidence of where he was not born... they want a simple piece on paper that would be on file with the state showing were he was born...

One of these (see photo below)

I have one and I can get a photo copy for a few bucks an a stamp.

I bet you have one too

Obama said he has one...OK... can we see it... this vault copy oy his bc... Like I said he can get a photo copy for a few bucks an a stamp...

So what hard to understand?... what the deal?... it so simple to provide?... What the issue?... why the stonewalling? ...

He can end this farce in a second just providing one of these... but he hasn't... either way this is just getting stupid


145 posted on 07/23/2009 3:31:01 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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