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Kirk: I get the message on global warming vote
The Southern Illinoisan (Carbondale) ^ | July 21, 2009 | ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 07/22/2009 12:47:36 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955

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To: Lawgvr1955

Under house rules he can change his vote.

Regardless he needs to be replaced in the next election by someone who isn’t an idiot.


21 posted on 07/22/2009 3:47:30 AM PDT by stockpirate (The movement to take back America has already started, Sarah is her name.)
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To: Lawgvr1955

Under house rules he can change his vote.

Regardless he needs to be replaced in the next election by someone who isn’t an idiot.


22 posted on 07/22/2009 3:48:21 AM PDT by stockpirate (The movement to take back America has already started, Sarah is her name.)
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To: Lawgvr1955
The plan would cap the pollution that companies can release but then *allow* them to buy and sell permits for more emissions

Allow???

23 posted on 07/22/2009 3:51:39 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: stockpirate

HERE IS A REPORT FROM ILLINOIS FREEPERS AT THE KIRK MEETING ON SUNDAY:::

One of the last questions came from a woman up front who wanted to know if, in retrospect, he would change his vote on cap and trade. Kirk weaseled and danced nervously saying he’d learned his lesson, but never actually recanted. It got so loud at that point I could not hear the final result.

Kirk’s opening remarks were tedious and patronizing, and it soon became clear that all of his pie-charts and piousness weren’t going to cut it with this crowd. Once it moved to the Q&A portion things got a little dicey for poor ol’ Mark. The questions were getting far more applause than the answers (or non-answers as the case may be). Fairly early on, FReeper BEESBA (the Angry-White-Male who claims to have boinked Hillary many years ago) and the couple he was hanging with were ejected for loudly demanding an actual answer to one of the questions. I followed them out and we talked for a while on the front sidewalk.

Also out front was an older-middleage woman with her young adult (maybe teenage) son. She was an obvious Kirk supporter and was literally sobbing, “they are going to crucify over just one vote.” I pulled the kid aside and told him to tell her it wasn’t “just on vote”. I said, “think straw breaking camel’s back.”

I moved back just inside the door just as the lady with the 85 pound copy of Cap’nTax was arriving ... it was a tight fit. Her performance was CLASSIC as were several others. By the end of the day, Kirk appeared red-faced and visibly shaken.

One of the last questions came from a woman up front who wanted to know if, in retrospect, he would change his vote on cap and trade. Kirk weaseled and danced nervously saying he’d learned his lesson, but never actually recanted. It got so loud at that point I could not hear the final result.

Illinois FREEPER #2 Recap:

One woman showed up around forty minutes late with a six inch thick binder. She was livid. The binder contained every word of Waxman-Markey. She said she was late because Kinko’s “took a long time to print this thing,” and that she had spent $200.00 of her own money to show up with her own copy. She emphasized that she had indeed read ALL 1400 pages, “have you?” Kirk replied that he had read 800 or so, but that that’s what the Dems are doing, demanding a vote on bills before they’re even done being written.

“You’re gone! You’re outta here!” she yelled at Kirk. She almost got tossed as well, but then an old WW2 Navy vet got up, looked her square in the eye and defended Kirk. Can’t remember exactly what he said, but it was sorta moving. She calmed down, then raised her hand toward the end but Kirk wouldn’t call on her.

I was in the back leaned up against the glass. Seated next to me was a woman taking detailed notes in a spiral binder. She had a name tag that read “Patricia Bird.” Another constituent asked her why she was taking notes, and she told him “I’m running against him.” …..‘kay....

I’d guess that a good 50 - 70% of the people there were polite but angry.


24 posted on 07/22/2009 3:57:17 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady

Nice report!


25 posted on 07/22/2009 4:17:00 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: chicagolady
How could ANYONE vote into LAW anything that that person HAD NOT FULLY READ AND VETTED??????????

Do we now live in a country where our representatives are willing to VOTE into LAW demands they have not even READ?

I cannot believe this.

Why don't they just show up, SCREAM at the top of their lungs that they CANNOT VOTE on an ISSUE that they have not READ, that to do so is WRONG because it becomes a LAW of our nation, uh, DUH! Pelosi and Reid have NO RIGHT to force votes on ANYTHING our representatives have not had time to READ!

And this putting in of 300 pages of CRAP at 3 AM in the morning before a VOTE has got to stop...........WHAT DO WE HAVE......CHILDREN RUNNING OUR GOVERNMENT?

26 posted on 07/22/2009 4:25:57 AM PDT by Republic (Uhbama has sleezed and schmoozed his way through life-he is a silly little boy with inmmature dreams)
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To: Lawgvr1955; grey_whiskers; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

27 posted on 07/22/2009 4:54:38 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: Lawgvr1955

If he was any damn good he could have read the bill and seen why the people are raisng hobb with him

Anyone with an ounce of brains would never have voted for it.


28 posted on 07/22/2009 4:57:03 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Lawgvr1955
Republicans who were outraged that he supported pollution limits
It's not pollution. It's CARBON-DIOXIDE.

This is the new spin of the MSM, to say pollution when it's just CARBON-DIOXIDE.

29 posted on 07/22/2009 5:00:23 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Lawgvr1955

hey its Illinois this is probably as good ad the GOP can get to have a run statewide


30 posted on 07/22/2009 5:10:38 AM PDT by DM1
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To: Republic

We have children running the government because we have children VOTING.

YOUR congressman “brings money back to the district”, so you vote for him. And the corruption continues.


31 posted on 07/22/2009 5:18:27 AM PDT by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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To: Lawgvr1955

“I’ll be good (IF the voters are stupid enough to give me another chance.)”


32 posted on 07/22/2009 5:22:27 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Lawgvr1955

Republicans like this deserve to be flushed down the toilette where they belong.

If I were a voter in Illinois, I would write in Abraham Lincoln or Everett Dirksen.


33 posted on 07/22/2009 5:23:38 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: ZULU

I am a voter in Illinois;want to know why he voted for cap&tax?His campaign got a $94,000 donation from Exelon Corp.,an energy giant here.They own Commonwealth Edison who supplies the power to northern Illinois.He can understand our anger,but business is business.


34 posted on 07/22/2009 5:36:05 AM PDT by pistolpetestoys (Outside of a dog a book is a mans best friend;inside a dog it's too dark to read.)
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To: Positive
The plan would cap the pollution that companies can release but then allow them to buy and sell permits for more emissions.

We're letting them define the argument if we allow them to just blatantly state that CO2 is a "pollutant".

Very much like them blatantly stating that it has been proven that 0bama was born in Hawaii.

35 posted on 07/22/2009 5:37:55 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: pistolpetestoys

“He can understand our anger,but business is business”

And patriotism is patriotism. This dog should read what happened to the heroes who signed the Declaration of Independence. But he is willing to throw America away for 30 pieces of silver.

A dog.


36 posted on 07/22/2009 5:44:30 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: pistolpetestoys; Walrus

I live in Rep. Kirk’s district. He says that he opposes all congressional earmarks, but he ensured that the federal government spent at least $5 million, each, in our district, for HUD, Headstart, local police departments, and commuter trains, although that spending is unconstitutional. He’s a hypocrite and a liar.

I emailed Kirk, four times, and I asked why he’s a Republican, although he’s pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay marriage, pro-spending increases, pro-illegal alien, and anti-Iraq surge. I didn’t get a response, so I emailed four of his aides and asked them why he’s a Republican. None of them responded.


37 posted on 07/22/2009 8:30:28 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

Fortunately,I live in Il.16/Don Manzullo is my congressman and a rock-solid conservative.


38 posted on 07/22/2009 11:41:33 AM PDT by pistolpetestoys (Outside of a dog a book is a mans best friend;inside a dog it's too dark to read.)
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To: pistolpetestoys

Whom do you support for the U.S. Senate? I’ll vote for Dr. Eric Wallace. His site is www.wallaceforillinois.com.


39 posted on 07/22/2009 12:08:19 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: fieldmarshaldj

A protest vote against Kirk in the primary would be a good idea. At the same time, if he’s the nominee, we shouldn’t do anything to help the ‘Rat nominee win.


40 posted on 07/22/2009 4:28:20 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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