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Creationist Governor Featured Speaker at RNC Meeting (Tim Pawlenty)
Little Green Footballs ^ | July 21, 2009 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 07/21/2009 11:42:28 AM PDT by EveningStar

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To: Clemenza

Clemenza, we need a ‘war-time’ Godfather.

Not the GWOT, but the left.

Who’s our best fighter?


41 posted on 07/21/2009 3:21:58 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You are wrongly talking smack wrt Catholic Church.

They are the strongest mainstream church standing up for family, marriage and life including rights of unborn.


42 posted on 07/21/2009 3:24:32 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: DallasMike
Thanks, Tax-chick. I am a conservative Christian and a scientist by training and by career experience. I don't believe in science out of faith, but because it shows us facts, even though it is sometimes wrong. Similarly, the faith I have in God is not the kind of blind faith of believing in something one hopes to be true, but may not be true. It is placing my faith in something that I already know to be true.

Awesome quote. Worth repeating. Another God-fearing science-loving anti-idiotarian right-wing conservative. Good on ya!

43 posted on 07/21/2009 3:26:41 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: EveningStar

I agree. I think he just set everything up and let it run.


44 posted on 07/21/2009 4:11:11 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer...)
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To: DallasMike
That would apply to you. The 14th amendment was written about the salves, does not apply after that. Second, the other supreme court ruling was that the coolies working on the railroads were sent home with their children and the court said the fourteenth did not apply. You should really know the Constitution before you post something wrong.
45 posted on 07/21/2009 4:16:08 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: WOSG
You are wrongly talking smack wrt Catholic Church.

They are the strongest mainstream church standing up for family, marriage and life including rights of unborn.

They're also the number one promoters of "theistic evolution" and Biblical "higher criticism" in the religious world. This is why they are in such a mess at the present time and why they will eventually cave on the other issues as well.

What good is being "moral" while ripping the Word of G-d into tatters? Secular humanists do as much.

46 posted on 07/21/2009 4:49:43 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Be`ever haYarden be'Eretz Mo'av; ho'iyl Mosheh be'er 'et-haTorah hazo't le'mor.)
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To: WOSG

Palin has spunk, but that doesn’t necessarily make her a fighter. We have a big deficiency in that department. Hillary has more balls than any of the leading Republicans. :(


47 posted on 07/21/2009 7:12:23 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks thanks.


48 posted on 07/21/2009 7:24:00 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: EveningStar; Impy; MplsSteve; fieldmarshaldj; Norman Bates

I could live with Pawlenty as the nominee, even if he’s nothing spectacular. He’s certainly an improvement over the current occupant. But even Romney is better than what we have now.

Mitch Daniels earns points for ability, but he remains pretty aloof from party-building. Bobby Jindal has potential, but he needs a speech coach.


49 posted on 07/21/2009 7:49:19 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The Catholic Church's position to creationism is just about identical to its position on a Third Jewish Temple--it's allergic to the idea!

LOL. Nice satire.

50 posted on 07/21/2009 7:53:24 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: DallasMike
Forgot to include this earlier:

In 1898, the Supreme Court in United States v. Wong Kim Ark declared that the Fourteenth Amendment adopted the common-law definition of birthright citizenship. Chief Justice Melville W. Fuller’s dissenting opinion, however, argued that birthright citizenship had been repealed by the principles of the American Revolution and rejected by the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment. Nonetheless, the decision conferred birthright citizenship on a child of legal residents of the United States. Although the language of the majority opinion in Wong Kim Ark is certainly broad enough to include the children born in the United States of illegal as well as legal immigrants, there is no case in which the Supreme Court has explicitly held that this is the unambiguous command of the Fourteenth Amendment.

51 posted on 07/21/2009 8:14:12 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

No.


52 posted on 07/21/2009 8:18:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Bobby Jindal has potential, but he needs a speech coach.”

I was just saying that same thing today.

Pawlenty has the potential to be a major dark horse although he has some steep numbers to rise up from.

Apparently Newt has been making some noises of late.


53 posted on 07/21/2009 9:14:41 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Clemenza

Sadly I agree. Hillary’s the biggest man in either party. And her grasping after the nomination months after she was written off - man, a thing of pure nixonian ambition.

We need that juice in the GOP. We lost that mojo when we lost Tom DeLay. that’s it - we dont need a new Reagan, we need a new Tom Delay. lol.

At first I was afraid Palin’s resignation might have been a ‘run away’ action, but reconsidered reading her speech on it.

If Obama’s the headache I will grasp any GOP pill as the cure.


54 posted on 07/21/2009 9:37:04 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“This is why they are in such a mess at the present time”

LOL, Episcopalians are fleeing their church to come to the catholic church to grab a lifeline of orthodox Christianity.

The Catholic Church has been endorsing science advance for 2 millenia, dont confuse that support for abandonment of Christian faith in any way shape or form. The Nicene Creed remains undisturbed for 1700 years.


55 posted on 07/21/2009 9:39:42 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: EveningStar

So global warming isn’t the only bad “science” that Pawlenty is in too huh?


56 posted on 07/21/2009 11:50:31 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Norman Bates
I could live with Pawlenty as the nominee

I could live with no arms or legs, but I'd rather not. :o

57 posted on 07/21/2009 11:53:02 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: WOSG
LOL, Episcopalians are fleeing their church to come to the catholic church to grab a lifeline of orthodox Christianity.

The Catholic Church isn't far behind. It'll find itself at the same place the Episcopal Church is in now, perhaps much sooner than you think. And it began the same way in the Episcopal Church--downgrading the Word of G-d to didactic mythology.

The Catholic Church has been endorsing science advance for 2 millenia, dont confuse that support for abandonment of Christian faith in any way shape or form. The Nicene Creed remains undisturbed for 1700 years.

As I understand it, the "official" beliefs of Catholicism don't reduce to the text of the Nicene Creed, which is very flexible or else it still wouldn't be around in a church that has changed so radically over the centuries.

I'm not complaining about "abandonment of the chr*stian faith." Chr*stian faith is part of the problem. No wonder most chr*stians think the Torah is nonsense!

58 posted on 07/22/2009 8:04:32 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Be`ever haYarden be'Eretz Mo'av; ho'iyl Mosheh be'er 'et-haTorah hazo't le'mor.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“As I understand it, the “official” beliefs of Catholicism don’t reduce to the text of the Nicene Creed, which is very flexible or else it still wouldn’t be around in a church that has changed so radically over the centuries.”

The Catholic Catechism is much more substantive than the Nicene Creed, and reflects the fuller expression of the “official” beliefs of the Catholic church. If you look at the Catholic Catechism, you will see it has NOT changed radically over the centuries. Vatican II was a change to sacraments and many other things, but not substantially to core Catholic doctrine afaik.

The Catholic Church has been far more rock-solid than most any of the ‘mainline’ Protestant churches, and part of the reason for that is that the Catholic Church was and is able to lean on 20 centuries of tradition to deflect the leftists infiltration and demands to ‘modernize’. Protestant mainline churches were more exposed to the attack, which in those churches has led to lesbian bishops, abandonment of Christian orthodoxy, substitution of liberal feelgoodism for true moral teaching, and empty pews.

The leftist virus is strong, so I wont claim the Catholic church is fully immune.


59 posted on 07/23/2009 9:07:36 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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The Catholic Church has been far more rock-solid than most any of the ‘mainline’ Protestant churches

That ain't sayin' much, I'm afraid. You obviously have no contact with read Fundamentalist Protestants.

My beef with the Catholic/Orthodox/mainstream churches is that they are hostile to the Hebrew Bible and try to subvert it into myth and chr*stology. But then, I suppose that's what they have to do.

60 posted on 07/23/2009 12:45:26 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Be`ever haYarden be'Eretz Mo'av; ho'iyl Mosheh be'er 'et-haTorah hazo't le'mor.)
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