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Krauthammer: Not just criminalization of policy, but declaration of war [between Dems & Repubs]
NRO ^ | 07/13/2009 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 07/14/2009 3:46:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

Krauthammer's take from last night's All-Stars Panel on Special Report with Bret Baier:

On Eric Holder possibly appointing a prosecutor to investigate Bush-era interrogation techniques:

If he does this, it is a terrible mistake. What we heard today, that [the special prosecutor] will only be for rogue interrogators who went outside the law—presumably, you know, [for] sadists who wanted to have a good time out of the rubric of interrogation. I'm not sure there are a lot of those.

What will happen is once you appoint a prosecutor, as we know from past history, he's out of control. There are no limits on what he or she can do. And that means it will not stop with the rogue interrogator. It will go all the way to lawyers. It will go up to politicians.

And what this would be would be a criminalization of policy differences with a previous administration in the middle of two wars—in a way that will create open warfare (a) with the CIA, and (b) between Democrats and Republicans. This is a declaration of war if it...does actually come to pass.



TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodoj; congresscritters; constitution; crime; culturalwar; holder; krauthammer; liberalagenda; policy; powergrab; socialistblitzkrieg; torture
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To: madamemayhem
... when a special prosecutor was digging for more dirt on clinton the american people were flat out sickened. not by the dirt, but by the out of control prosecutor, the republicans cheering him on, and the ungodly expense of an investigation that seemed to go on and on and on.

With all due respect, I'm not sure the public was as spontaneously sickened as you recall. Most of that attitude, I felt at the time, was generated by a sympathetic media encouraging them to be "sickened"

61 posted on 07/14/2009 8:15:35 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: BuckeyeTexan

That is exactly what Obama wants to do...create a war.


62 posted on 07/14/2009 8:18:04 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Nickname

I have come to the following conclusions, for which I offer no apology:

1. Democrats are the enemy of freedom.

2. It is past time for the reset button to be pushed for DC. This is the original inalienable right.

3. It is time for a new birth of freedom, as the Federal government is officially out of control.We have to again define ourselves as Americans, as free men and women, not as subjects of the State.


63 posted on 07/14/2009 8:22:59 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82

I’ll sign my John Hancock to that.


64 posted on 07/14/2009 9:01:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: doc11355

quite possibly so, sir.


65 posted on 07/14/2009 9:02:16 PM PDT by madamemayhem (there are only two places in the world: over here and over there.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Obama's people would make the cities burn, and would converge on Washington with machetes.

I'm not sure this would bother the rest of the country right now.

66 posted on 07/14/2009 9:13:05 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: teg_76
What kind of signs?

When Texans start removing the "drive friendly" signs, look out.

67 posted on 07/14/2009 9:15:10 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: FightThePower!
Cheney is was a big government socialist hawk on foreign policy

Confused?

68 posted on 07/14/2009 9:18:28 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
You know, BTx, I've been giving the "breadcrumbs back home" problem a lot of thought lately. I posted the following on another thread:

Actually, I think the spirit behind these [state sovereignty] resolutions may be the last, best hope for recovering a constitutional form of government short of all-out chaos.

My fear is that:
- elections maybe too compromised by outright fraud,
- the electorate has been too dumbed-down,
- the Executive branch has abandoned any pretense of respect for the rule of law,
- representation is lost due to "lifetime" Senators & Representatives whose main focus is perpetuating the lobbying/campaigning system, and
- a judaical system - dominated by Progressives - that would need a thousand lifetimes to trace the status quo back through stare decisis to a legitimate Constitutional foundation.

The last standing institution that may be capable of plowing the monster under is a united effort of a large number of sovereign state governments (all 3 branches) loudly proclaiming the Federal government has violated its contract with the States and is no longer legitimate. And we'd probably have better odds placing all our chips on 00 and spinning the wheel.

Does anyone else see a way back to the Constitution? Please tell me I've missed something.

69 posted on 07/14/2009 9:19:55 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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To: capydick

It seems that making a laughingstock of media figures may be an easier way to get traction than targeting those politicians they protect. The media’s already headed that way anyhow...


70 posted on 07/14/2009 9:25:34 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: DB

In the end I don’t think Bush was listening to Rove, either. He acted more like he was listening to his dad.


71 posted on 07/14/2009 9:28:28 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Democrats creating a political war over this straw-man issue while simultaneously slamming the CIA would be bizarre and markedly odd strategy.


72 posted on 07/14/2009 10:09:52 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: LTCJ

All excellent points!

I support the state sovereignty movement. I think it has potential. Where I see a problem for the states in that regard is in receiving payment from the federal government for social programs. The federal government could effectively bankrupt a rebellious state by refusing to reimburse the state for the cost of administering federal programs.

Texas has a $9b rainy-day fund and a balanced budget. We’re not hurting financially as California and other states are. So Texas is the only state I can think of who could rebel and still get by financially until the dust settled and the fed backed down. Even then, without taking military action, the fed could block our ports and still hurt us to some extent.


73 posted on 07/14/2009 10:35:12 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I don't know how we could threaten investigations and/or prosecutions of legislators. They're protected by law from prosecution.

If their financial records were gone over with a microscope, looking for evidence of bribery, kickbacks, inurement, or other prosecutable offenses, how many would come out as being utterly clean?

74 posted on 07/15/2009 5:08:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Bammy is playing GOOD COP to Holder’s BAD COP, however Bammy WANTS Holder to go after Cheney and any OTHER Republicans so that in the future less and less Republicans get into government!


75 posted on 07/15/2009 5:15:36 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The federal government could effectively bankrupt a rebellious state by refusing to reimburse the state for the cost of administering federal programs.

I think you're right. A single state could not go it alone due to the incestuous relationship between the Feds and the state - something that never should have been allowed to happen.

It would definitely have to be a well coordinated move by a substantial block of states. At that point, if the Feds didn't back down, secession would have to be thrown into the pot.

76 posted on 07/15/2009 10:37:32 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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