Posted on 07/14/2009 10:08:23 AM PDT by harwood
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Just mentioned by Andrea Mitchell, who breathlessly reports this now gives the story a political angle...
I just took it to mean that back in Apr `99 he died on the 10th, was buried on the 16th, and then either no-one had returned since, or they had returned and they just didn’t know until recently that he’d been pulled out and dupmed.
I think they mean that his body was last seen then. Probably the date he was buried.
I had no idea.. Rent? Here we have to pay for the plot before burial, or does the differ amongst states?
That’s not necessarily a fair statement. My grandma was buried in the state that she lived and died in. Shortly after she died, grandpa came to live with us over a thousand miles away. He never flew back to see her grave, and in fact the first time any of her children went back, it was years later to bury their father. She was resting in the middle of the country and her children lived on the coasts. They spent money coming to visit their living father, instead of their mother’s grave. I don’t think it was selfish at all.
And they would have been outraged if this happened to grandma, even though we don’t make the 1500 mile journey to her grave. We expect her to be able to rest in peace.
What about the grave stones or markers for the new buriels?
Nope. It doesn't.
My GGGrandfather died in 1857. He was buried at Lagrange street cemetery, Toledo, Ohio. It was moved. No record of where he went. My 99 year old great Uncle died in 1999 never knowing what happened to his grandfather. They tried telling him that he'd never been buried there. But he knew that he was. Odd stuff goes on and unless one makes a fuss........
I took to mean that that was the last time anybody saw his grave.
I get out to the family about once every week or so, and would notice if they were missing or had been disturbed
It’s a tragedy regardless of who is involved!
Yes, you may be right (as I noted in my post at #55). I guess I was figuring she wouldn’t stand out there with a sign for the media, if there wasn’t more to it than that, but you never know. Presumably now that she’s put the sign/name/date out there, some local journalists will try to track down other relatives for more info. Maybe none of them have been there since the funeral, and rushed out to check when they heard the news about the cemetery — not because they wanted to reassure themselves that he was still there, but because they were hoping he’d been dug up and discarded so they could have a shot at a cash settlement.
Imagine, though, if these were 4 white people behind this crime...it would be explosive and we would have 24/7 Sharpton/Jackson/NAACP meltdown coverage...magritte
I read a case of one person buried there that when they couldn’t find his grave, they went to the office. There was NO record of him.
My family is in Ohio and Michigan and I’m not. We get back there every few years. I have yet to make it to my Dad’s and Grandparents graves. Going to visit the living instead of spending days driving from cemetery to cemetery.
“...someplace down South (I think?) where they were taking the money and basically dumping the bodies in the woods...”
That was Tri-State Mortuary and Crematorium in North Georgia near Tennessee and Alabama. Their crematory broke and while waiting for repairs they stashed bodies everywhere. It was another victory for Afirmative Action contract awarding as some local govts. sent their pauper corpses there.
Move along peons.
It is the Chicagoland way you can do nothing about it.
Have you tried checking online cemetery records? If he was moved to a new grave that was marked, you might well be able to find the grave that way. Depends when he was moved, since different cemeteries have been surveyed at different times. It’s worth a try though, if you haven’t already. All my relatives who are buried in a small town cemetery in Iowa, beginning in the late 1800s through to the spring of 2000 are findable that way.
I don’t know if this site includes all available online records, but it’s pretty extensive. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/cemetery/search.htm
Yes, I certainly realize that many people can’t visit relatives’ graves. But since this woman was able to check the grave and then come out with a picket sign, in all likelihood she lives nearby.
Thanks for the link. I'll try it.
Sad but true...
Many years ago, when I was an impressionable child, my parents were visiting some friends, and a bunch of us kids were outside playing. At the time, the city was putting in a big expressway, and besides houses being demolished or moved, they ended up eliminating a cemetery. I can’t recall the name of the cemetery, but I do vividly remember watching bulldozers unearth the caskets. It’s a memory that has stayed with me all these years. I decided a long time ago, that I’d rather be cremated than have my bones eventually dug up so they could put in a highway.
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