To: wireplay
Palin is 100% correct on this issue; abortion belongs to the states. Do you believe the same thing about your unalienable right to keep and bear arms? Your right to free speech? Assembly? Petition? What?
Please explain to me why you, and Governor Palin, can claim that the right to keep and bear arms is for all persons, but that the first right, the right to live, is somehow "up to the states"?
32 posted on
07/12/2009 9:59:55 PM PDT by
EternalVigilance
("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
To: EternalVigilance
Ok, the right to keep and bear arms is spelled out in the 2nd amendment.
Free speech is laid out in the 1st amendment.
Nowhere is abortion addressed which means it falls to the 9th amendment first, then the 10th amendment.
Later amendments ALWAYS supercede prior amendments so abortion MAY be covered by the 14th but I doubt it. Hence, it is a right reserved to the people (9th) unless the states supercede it (10th).
It should never have been a national decision. It should have been ruled as a right but the states can override. ALL rights are reserved meaning if the Constitution does not expressly forbid it, it is a right unless the States override.
BTW, the right to live is NOT in the Constitution and several mentions are made of that fact. For example, capital punishment is deemed as appropriate for multiple crimes.
The life, liberty, happiness issue is a DOI issue which is NOT law. The DOI was a protest statement (similar to an editorial).
89 posted on
07/12/2009 11:13:07 PM PDT by
wireplay
To: EternalVigilance
I agree with you completely.
It's hard for me to understand how a reasoning person (much less a Christian) cannot see this issue clearly. No one, government, tribe or individual has the moral authority to murder. That's what our Declaration of Independence says: "... unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.".
Regardless whether a government has instituted a policy of preborn murder or not, life is an absolute right. Just because an unborn child cannot speak for his/her self, doesn't mean any of us have the right to take his/her life.
Christians should know how God views child sacrifice.
Despite my fervent support for Sarah, I'm concerned that she is not yet sufficiently 'steeped' in all the policies and perspectives she will have to address as she moves toward national and international leadership. I think (hope) this "abortion is a states issue" is a line she accepted from the RINO's campaign.
One of the benefits of having a good upbringing, a good family and good rules to live by is that you haven't had to develop 'political arguments' that support those benefits. You just have life experiences that have worked out well because of these foundations.
Much of the American culture has 'left the reservation' and many people cannot relate. Developing the supporting cases to convince those who aren't so lucky can be difficult. To do this, she needs folks who can identify the considerations, think through the issues, develop the positions for Sarah and her team to review and choose. It should be easier than 'normal politicians' because she (should) already know the right answer, or at least from whence its validation comes.
I can't relate to the antipathy toward Alan Keyes shown on FR. I get the sense that there are those who felt betrayed by him, or find him self aggrandizing, or object to his position on moral absolutes. I've yet to find his reasoning fallacious. Not having made a definitive or sufficient study, I'm open to discussion.
Unless there is a valid reason for dismissing Dr. Keyes, I think he could be invaluable as one of Sarah's advisors. (I'd like to see Thomas Sowell on her team also).
97 posted on
07/12/2009 11:33:09 PM PDT by
plsjr
(<>< ... reality always gets the last vote.)
To: EternalVigilance
Please explain to me why you, and Governor Palin, can claim that the right to keep and bear arms is for all persons, but that the first right, the right to live, is somehow "up to the states"?
While I support Sarah Palin, the above point is valid. Either the 14th Amendment applies to ALL such rights, or it apples only to specific rights as protected under the U.S. Constitution. Sarah is being a bit inconsistent here and needs to be corrected. One can be a supporter and still point out inconsistencies. The last thing we need is a personality cult.
214 posted on
07/13/2009 9:58:22 AM PDT by
rob777
(Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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