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Palin’s Choice: an Afterword - ALAN KEYES
Loyal to LIberty ^ | July 12, 2009 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 07/12/2009 9:15:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

In light of the comments and responses to my WND piece on Sarah Palin's resignation, I think some further observations and reflections are in order.

First it's important to remind everyone that I have never accepted the notion that Palin somehow represents adherence to the moral principles of republican, constitutional government. In a WND article right after McCain selected her as his running mate (Gov. Sarah Palin: Unequally yoked), I gave the reasons why. Later, when Charles Gibson asked her about Roe v. Wade she declared "I think that states should be able to decide that issue." In reaction, I wrote another article (Sarah Palin: Already compromised?) in which I observed that "Palin is being touted as an unequivocally pro-life politician…Her words suggest that, on the contrary, she regards the issue of respect for innocent life as a matter of personal opinion rather than public principle…." I went on to point out that "making a pro-life icon of someone who takes this falsified "states' rights" position and who, at the same time, relegates her pro-life views to the status of "personal opinion", places the pro-life movement firmly on the path of self-destruction." I cautioned that "If the issue of respect for innocent human life is simply a matter of "personal opinion," what justifies government interference (at any level) in the personal decision of the woman carrying the child, or the parents who provided the genetic material from which its life derives?...Where no overriding public interest can be ascertained, the state cannot impose its moral opinions upon individuals without infringing the freedom of conscientious decision essential for the free exercise of religion (which is also counted among our unalienable rights.)"

In these past writings, as in the latest one, I have tried to reason clearly and carefully about the issues of public principle and policy raised by Sarah Palin's words and actions. Unfortunately, both Palin's fans and the leftist media hacks who act as her detractors have focused on her personal life. The fans want people to accept her loving commitment to her Down syndrome child as conclusive evidence that she is a pro-life champion. Her detractors snipe about her temperament, or make reprehensible so-called jokes about her family members, trying with ridicule and character assassination to manipulate public opinion against her. Meanwhile, her fans respond as if these rabid attacks conclusively prove that she is the conservative champion of principled morality they so desperately want her to be.

Unfortunately, as I argued in the articles cited above, ugly media attacks don't' alter the facts that show, logically and conclusively, that she is not such a champion.

Now I find readers like David, who left a comment on this site, declaring his view that my latest piece "is what I would expect from the mudslinging left." This reaction exposes the insidious nature of this whole contrived situation. Once we accept "personal" matters (of action or opinion) as the basis for our support or rejection of political leaders, anyone who opposes them can be accused of mudslinging and slander, even when their opposition is based on careful reasoning about public policy and constitutional principle.

Like so much else going on in our public discussion these days, this makes fear rather than truth the standard of our public discourse. In my case it would be fear of being unfairly attacked as an un-Christian replicant of the left-wing character assassins. This reminds me of what liberal blacks have tried for years to do on account of my rejection of their leftist cant on welfare issues. In both cases my response must be the same, precisely because of Christ's example. I will try to follow what careful and conscientious reasoning from right principle leads me to believe is true. I will leave in God's hands the integrity of my identity. In the end, he knows the right name for me and will recognize me for what I am.

I could of course simply say nothing as others promote Palin as a representative of the constituency of moral principle. Unfortunately, when she proves inadequate to the task, human vanity will lead many to doubt the viability of the moral cause, rather than their own lack of discernment about the flaws in her public policy stances on the key moral issues. Such doubters will sow confusion and demoralization in the ranks of moral conservatives. This may in fact be the result intended by some of those who helped promote Palin to national prominence, though they tacitly despise the moral constituency she is supposed to represent. By speaking out, will people like me help to mitigate this bad result? Will our warnings prevent well intentioned people from relying too much upon a false hope? If so, it's worth the risk of being unpopular with Palin fans who insist that reasonable criticism of her public policy views and actions is no different than the partisan media's malevolent personal attacks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: alanwho; chucklestheclown; keyes; palin; palin2012; sorelosersayswhat; tedbaxter
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To: EternalVigilance
Actually, you do not even understand your hero, now.

I KNOW what Keyes believes, I have made these same arguments to his face, more than once.

I think he is a complete fool on this issue, as he prefers purity over performance, words over accomplishments, his own preferences over the actual protection of life.

81 posted on 07/12/2009 11:02:55 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: ThePanFromJapan
"You had a potential convert to the AIP. You lost me by refusing to answer."

Then they'll still have meetings in a phone booth, rather than a Ford Pinto.

82 posted on 07/12/2009 11:04:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. ~H.L. Mencken)
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To: ThePanFromJapan
So, just to get things cleared up, you’re agreeing with Alan Keyes and opposing Sarah Palin because of the abortion issue. Am I correct?

Absolutely. Governor Palin's "pro-choice for states" position is identical to Ron Paul's, John McCain's and Gerald R. Ford's, and is 180 degrees out of phase with that of Ronald Reagan and the Reagan Republican pro-life platform that has been in place since 1984.

It is also the exact moral equivalent of the position of the Stephen A. Douglas Democrats in the 1850's.

83 posted on 07/12/2009 11:04:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: EternalVigilance
Was the country a better place PRIOR to Roe V. Wade?

YES, it was!

Would overturning Roe V. Wade outlaw abortion?

NO, it would not!

Why can't we do BOTH?

Overturn Roe, at the Federal level, by simple act of Congress, and get Congress and the States to restrict abortion through legislation, as much as politically possible?

Why must abortion be fought differently than every other political battle?

Alan Keyes is an egomaniac, full of himself, with no record of legislative or political achievement at all.

Alan Keyes would be in big trouble if abortion were actually outlawed.

Alan Keyes would then be much like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson, without much of a cause to live off of, anymore!

84 posted on 07/12/2009 11:07:07 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: ThePanFromJapan

This is not about personalities, parties, or personal emotions or pique. This is about the most fundamental underpinnings of our country and our liberty. A foundation that is very nearly gone.


85 posted on 07/12/2009 11:07:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: EternalVigilance

Might want to do a little research:

Reagan’s Darkest Hour
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957829/posts


86 posted on 07/12/2009 11:08:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. ~H.L. Mencken)
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To: EternalVigilance

And how about my second question? since I did ask the first one and you did answer after all.

I will repeat the question one more time:

Secondly, to clear it up, you are saying that the abortion issue should be taken up on a federal level, similar to what happened back in 1973, only with a different result. Am I correct?


87 posted on 07/12/2009 11:09:50 PM PDT by ThePanFromJapan (The Pundit class is going to be crapping bricks at what's coming next...*evil grin*)
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To: cothrige
But, that is not an argument of law under the Constitution. People argue that the "Blessings of Liberty" support abortion rights. Either you read and understand the Constitution, including that it reserves everything not explicitly given to the Federal Government to the States and the People, or you don't.

You conveniently left out the key word: POSTERITY, and its very clear and explicit meaning.

Abortion is not one of the Federal powers, and therefore it belongs to the States. You may not like that, but it is a fact.

Abortion is not a "power." It is the killing of an innocent person, contrary to the explicit prohibitions of the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments. And the clear prohibitions of ALL fifty states' constitutions as well; which variously use language to accomplish this that is identical or very similar to both the Declaration's language and that of the Constitution.

88 posted on 07/12/2009 11:12:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: EternalVigilance

Ok, the right to keep and bear arms is spelled out in the 2nd amendment.

Free speech is laid out in the 1st amendment.

Nowhere is abortion addressed which means it falls to the 9th amendment first, then the 10th amendment.

Later amendments ALWAYS supercede prior amendments so abortion MAY be covered by the 14th but I doubt it. Hence, it is a right reserved to the people (9th) unless the states supercede it (10th).

It should never have been a national decision. It should have been ruled as a right but the states can override. ALL rights are reserved meaning if the Constitution does not expressly forbid it, it is a right unless the States override.

BTW, the right to live is NOT in the Constitution and several mentions are made of that fact. For example, capital punishment is deemed as appropriate for multiple crimes.

The life, liberty, happiness issue is a DOI issue which is NOT law. The DOI was a protest statement (similar to an editorial).


89 posted on 07/12/2009 11:13:07 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: EternalVigilance
Are children in the womb PERSONS?

See post 67. You already asked that, and I already answered it, directly.

I wonder though, are criminals PERSONS? Are adult murder victims PERSONS? Are school-age children who are murdered PERSONS? Personhood is not the issue. All of these people are persons, and yet their deaths are not ruled on federally. All murder is morally evil, and yet is still up to the State's to legislate, enforce and prosecute. That is the Constitutional position, and Alan Keyes is wrong if he says otherwise.

90 posted on 07/12/2009 11:14:33 PM PDT by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Hey, if electoral success is your only plumb line, you might just as well be an Obama supporter. After all, he “won.”"

Wow! It's almost like I'm at the Lincoln/Douglas debates! You sure got me with that one! No wonder you're the head of such a large and growing political party, with a huge war-chest and thousands of elected officials all across the fruited plain.

91 posted on 07/12/2009 11:15:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. ~H.L. Mencken)
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To: EternalVigilance
The US Constitution, and the constitutions of all fifty states, forbid the killing of innocents.

Can you please point me to the wording in the Constitution that states this?

92 posted on 07/12/2009 11:16:13 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: ThePanFromJapan

Every sworn officer, every chief executive, every legislator, every judge, needs to acknowledge and defend the right to life of all persons. At every level of government.

In other words, the correct opinion that should issue from the courts is the one which recognizes the personhood of the child, and their protection by the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.

But it isn’t just up to the courts. We have three co-equal branches which each have an equal duty to understand and enforce the protection of the unalienable rights of ALL.


93 posted on 07/12/2009 11:17:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: EternalVigilance
Abortion is not a "power." It is the killing of an innocent person, contrary to the explicit prohibitions of the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments. And the clear prohibitions of ALL fifty states' constitutions as well; which variously use language to accomplish this that is identical or very similar to both the Declaration's language and that of the Constitution.

EV, I agree with your position on abortion but it is a states' issue. Don't play with the Constitution like a piece of taffy.

The 5th is clearly for trials, "Trials and Punishment, Compensation for Takings", and the 14th, "Citizenship Rights", has nothing to do with abortion. Fight it out locally but don't extrapolate things to mean what they don't mean. that is what has gotten us into the mess we are in now. lack of adherence to what is clearly spelled out.

94 posted on 07/12/2009 11:25:52 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: cothrige
Forgive me for missing it. So, you do admit that the child in the womb is a person.

For the benefit of any possible readers, allow me to point out once again that even Blackmun admitted in the Roe decision that if the child in the womb is a person, they are clearly protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.

From Roe vs. Wade:

A. The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a "person" within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the [Fourteenth] Amendment. The appellant conceded as much on reargument. 51 On the other hand, the appellee conceded on reargument 52 that no case could be cited that holds that a fetus is a person within the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Please explain to me why I'm wrong to believe that those who admit the personhood of the child in the womb and yet deny their protection under our Constitution's clear provisions are worse than Blackmun?

Even Blackmun needed a fig leaf, but you folks are standing there logically buck naked.

95 posted on 07/12/2009 11:26:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: wireplay
Can you please point me to the wording in the Constitution that states this?

Yes. The Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments are unequivocal about this.

96 posted on 07/12/2009 11:27:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: EternalVigilance
I agree with you completely.

It's hard for me to understand how a reasoning person (much less a Christian) cannot see this issue clearly. No one, government, tribe or individual has the moral authority to murder. That's what our Declaration of Independence says: "... unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.".

Regardless whether a government has instituted a policy of preborn murder or not, life is an absolute right. Just because an unborn child cannot speak for his/her self, doesn't mean any of us have the right to take his/her life.
Christians should know how God views child sacrifice.

Despite my fervent support for Sarah, I'm concerned that she is not yet sufficiently 'steeped' in all the policies and perspectives she will have to address as she moves toward national and international leadership. I think (hope) this "abortion is a states issue" is a line she accepted from the RINO's campaign.

One of the benefits of having a good upbringing, a good family and good rules to live by is that you haven't had to develop 'political arguments' that support those benefits. You just have life experiences that have worked out well because of these foundations.

Much of the American culture has 'left the reservation' and many people cannot relate. Developing the supporting cases to convince those who aren't so lucky can be difficult. To do this, she needs folks who can identify the considerations, think through the issues, develop the positions for Sarah and her team to review and choose. It should be easier than 'normal politicians' because she (should) already know the right answer, or at least from whence its validation comes.


I can't relate to the antipathy toward Alan Keyes shown on FR. I get the sense that there are those who felt betrayed by him, or find him self aggrandizing, or object to his position on moral absolutes. I've yet to find his reasoning fallacious. Not having made a definitive or sufficient study, I'm open to discussion.

Unless there is a valid reason for dismissing Dr. Keyes, I think he could be invaluable as one of Sarah's advisors. (I'd like to see Thomas Sowell on her team also).
97 posted on 07/12/2009 11:33:09 PM PDT by plsjr (<>< ... reality always gets the last vote.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Every sworn officer, every chief executive, every legislator, every judge, needs to acknowledge and defend the right to life of all persons. At every level of government.

And how do you expect to do this? God gave people free will, and some people choose to spit in his face. We have to deal with that at the same time as others. It is the human condition.

In other words, the correct opinion that should issue from the courts is the one which recognizes the personhood of the child, and their protection by the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.

Again, how do you expect someone to follow this? Same issue as above.

But it isn’t just up to the courts. We have three co-equal branches which each have an equal duty to understand and enforce the protection of the unalienable rights of ALL.

Again, how do you expect to get every person to follow this? Your point, in the flawed world that we live in, is not only untenable, but is unable to be fulfilled on a state, national, or international level.

The only way this can be done is on an individual level, with individual people. And, that goes back to the primary problem and the human condition: the God-given concept of free will. I am unable to accept or support your argument because it is, for all intensive purposes, something that will never happen as long as there is free will and evil in the world.
98 posted on 07/12/2009 11:33:28 PM PDT by ThePanFromJapan (The Pundit class is going to be crapping bricks at what's coming next...*evil grin*)
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To: EternalVigilance
Abortion is not a "power."

So, you are going to argue semantics? I think you know I am saying that abortion is not subject to federal power.

It is the killing of an innocent person...

Yes, and so is the murder of a young child abducted by a pederast. And so is the murder of a store clerk for money. And so is the murder of an elderly lady. Are any of these subject to Federal authority? No, they are the jurisdiction of the States. Are you saying that these innocent people are not PERSONS? Or are you saying that the States have no jurisdiction in them?

99 posted on 07/12/2009 11:33:34 PM PDT by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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To: wireplay
Nowhere is abortion addressed which means it falls to the 9th amendment first, then the 10th amendment.

Actually, you're doing exactly what the Ninth Amendment expressly forbids.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The DOI was a protest statement (similar to an editorial).

The Declaration of Independence is the organic law of the United States. As such, it is placed at the beginning of the US Code by the Congress.

100 posted on 07/12/2009 11:35:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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