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Electro-kinetic road ramp powers up by pushing down
ABC7.com (Green Right Now) ^ | July 10, 2009 | Ashley Phillips

Posted on 07/11/2009 12:17:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Peter Hughes of Highway Energy Systems Ltd. is an electrical and mechanical engineer responsible for many sustainable technological innovations. He spent years as an environmental consultant to the United Nations. Hughes developed ways to use solar-powered cooking at night for third world countries, and ways to force water into arid climates.

But none of his accomplishments is as impressive as his most recent innovation. The electro-kinetic road ramp, or as he refers to it, his “prized jewel in the crown,” is already making an impact in the UK and will soon be coming to the United States.

In development for six years, this new technology was installed last month at a Sainsbury, a UK grocery store chain in Gloucester. The electro kinetic road ramp was placed in the store’s parking lot, where energy generated from the weight of the cars traveling over the plates is being used to completely power all the registers in the store.

The company says that in normal traffic conditions, the ramps will produce 30kWh of energy.

“The power ramps do not use any gas from the motorists’ tank and this has been scientifically proven. We are simply using the kinetic energy and braking effect that would otherwise be wasted,” said Hughes.

Many applications for the road ramps are emerging. They have developed ways to power street and traffic lights, and even heat roads in the winter to prevent ice from forming. Other innovative applications include using the ramps to operate toll booths and ventilate tunnels to reduce pollution.

For many of us, the installation of such devices creates fears of long months of construction that disrupt traffic. But, depending on the terrain, installation actually only takes a few hours. And if a ramp stops producing energy; it does not become a hazard to traffic. The ramp can simply be switched out with a new functioning ramp in about 20 minutes, according to Hughes.

And it may not be long before you could be driving over one of these ramps.

“We expect to have appointed distributors who will also be responsible for installations and maintenance within the USA and Canada within the next 6 to 8 months,” said Hughes. While he did not specify which companies he has been negotiating with, there has been a lot of interest in Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York, as well as some of the U.S. ports.

Copyright © 2009 Green Right Now | Distributed by Noofangle Media


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: canada; electrokinetic; energy; environment; greatbritain; kineticenergy; peterhughes; ramp; roadramp; technology; traffic; uk; unitedstates; us; usa
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1 posted on 07/11/2009 12:17:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The real story of it is that it steals power by causing motorists to expend more fuel. It’s not free energy, in fact this is worse than power generated from a power plant. A power plant is more efficient at creating and distributing energy than a car so all this system does really is create more pollution not less.


2 posted on 07/11/2009 12:21:49 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: aft_lizard
it steals power by causing motorists to expend more fuel.

Doesn't sound like it does that. Sounds to me like it gobbles some energy when they are puttering around the parking lot, energy that would normally go into the break pads anyway. Now maybe they are stealing energy from regenerative breaking in hybrids, but that's another story.

3 posted on 07/11/2009 12:24:40 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: aft_lizard

Oops I see their claim that it doesn’t. Which is BS. It might be statistically insignificant for an individual vehicle but added up I guarantee it is using fuel.


4 posted on 07/11/2009 12:24:43 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: krb

Added resistance causes more fuel consumption. While it may be a statistically insignificant amount per vehicle multiplied out to hundreds if not thousands of vehicles a day it becomes significant.


5 posted on 07/11/2009 12:26:30 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“The power ramps do not use any gas from the motorists’ tank and this has been scientifically proven. We are simply using the kinetic energy and braking effect that would otherwise be wasted,” said Hughes.


I’m no mechanical engineer, but there is something regarding conservation of energy that is being overlooked here. If the material is softer than the asphalt (or cement) that the car would otherwise pass over - the deformation of the material which generates the electrical energy provided - is in some marginal sense being compensated for in the energy required to roll the car forward. It would be analogous to deflating your cars tires by some % and seeing what the effect would be on fuel mileage (all other factors held constant). As we all know decreasing the rolling resistance of tires (by increasing inflation pressure), to a point, reduces fuel consumption. A softer road surface will absorb energy and decrease fuel efficiency. I’m, sure it is a paltry effect, but it’s there.


6 posted on 07/11/2009 12:28:33 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The displaced plates detract from customer velocity —the store has been unjustifiably enriched, and the drivers are entitled to compensation.


7 posted on 07/11/2009 12:32:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

A car is a device that MAKES kinetic energy —energy from movement.

If the store USES car-supplied kinetic energy, then total car output is simply DIVIDED between car and store —very simple.

Usually customers rob stores, but here is is the OPPOSITE, and presumably and is hope and CHANGE.


8 posted on 07/11/2009 12:36:10 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

If the decrease in velocity is at a location where speed must be decreased (a stop sign, or turn up a curving ramp), then it could be argued that passively decreasing the speed of your car is actually INCREASING the lifespan of your brakes, meaning a benefit to your car.


9 posted on 07/11/2009 12:39:03 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Interstate 5 is the major north/south route in CA. As it drops off the Grapevine hill, there is a 10+ mile steep downgrade where trucks are held to 35 mph due to the steepnes. It has multiple escape ramps for runaway trucks. And the truck traffic is heavy and non-stop. I’ve always pondered ways to harness the energy from those trucks coming down that hill.


10 posted on 07/11/2009 12:39:33 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I’m no mechanical engineer, but there is something regarding conservation of energy that is being overlooked here.

You don't need to be a mechanical engineer to understand the law of thermodynamics. There's no free energy here. It's coming from somewhere.

If the pad is in a place where braking would be required (i.e. a downward slope, ending at a point where a stop is required), then something that retards the car's movement and converts that to electricity would simply be capturing kinetic energy that would otherwise be converted to heat when the car's brakes are applied.

But unless it is positioned at a point where every vehicle rolling across the pad would be braking at that very moment, it's stealing energy from the gas tank of at least some of the vehicles. It might be too small to measure on an individual basis, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening.

11 posted on 07/11/2009 12:40:08 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Lets use piezo crystals instead of gravel in asphalt and cement. Make our streets our electric plants!
12 posted on 07/11/2009 12:49:48 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: justlurking
“There's no free energy here. It's coming from somewhere.”

That's it in a nutshell. The only question is whether the energy would be dissipated in braking or taken from the car and having to be replaced with energy needed to maintain speed or needed acceleration.

13 posted on 07/11/2009 12:50:05 PM PDT by TCats
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wow, energy from nothing at no cost!

They should check their math. An auto’s kinetic energy comes from fuel consumption.


14 posted on 07/11/2009 12:53:17 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

>>I’m no mechanical engineer,

I am, and you get it. Great explanation, spot on.


15 posted on 07/11/2009 12:55:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: umgud
...I’ve always pondered ways to harness the energy from those trucks coming down that hill...

If any of them are gasoline tankers then you already are.

16 posted on 07/11/2009 12:57:37 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Jump You F**kers!)
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To: aft_lizard

No. It’s just a form of energy harvesting, converting the kinetic energy that would otherwise be turned into heat into electricity instead. First Law of Thermodynamics at work.


17 posted on 07/11/2009 1:08:11 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Regarding the concept of the “theft” of energy (via minor less fuel efficiency) in this method of energy extraction,

I would think, if explained that that theft is true, the customers may still not feel deprived, considering the cost and possible price considerations for the store owners if they still had to buy the power for the cash registers.

The net “loss” to the motorists may in fact be less than the cost savings offered in the store’s prices (the total cost savings to the store owner may be greater than the additional fuel expense for the motorists).

Most non-clothing retail operations survive on margins less than 10 cents on the dollar; for food it’s less than a nickle. Electricity is one of the fixed costs that usually most difficult for them to control, in terms of what they must pay for it.

I think the customers may be lucky the method is being used.


18 posted on 07/11/2009 1:09:44 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Man...what a bunch of nay sayers.

If this technology is applied correctly, it could reduce costs in the market, thus reducing costs for the consumer.

~SC


19 posted on 07/11/2009 1:12:50 PM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Better yet.... wire the lower jaw of all politicians to an alternator and convert useless words to electricity.


20 posted on 07/11/2009 1:18:24 PM PDT by Random Access
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