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Men's Advice Website Column Tells Men How To Coerce Their Girlfriends To Abort
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/10/09 | Thaddeus M. Baklinski

Posted on 07/11/2009 7:54:17 AM PDT by wagglebee

July 10, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A men's advice column published on the sexually suggestive AskMen.com website, which describes a coercive plan of action for men on how to talk their pregnant girlfriends into aborting their unborn child, has prompted outrage from pro-life groups and commentators. The backlash over the column appears to have been so forceful that the site has now pulled the offending piece.

The advice column was written by Isabella Snow, who is described as a Sex Education Correspondent. Snow offers what she claims to be an insider's look at how women react to becoming pregnant and the most effective ways to dissuade them from giving birth.

"For some women, getting pregnant can start clocks ticking and make them suddenly want to be mothers, despite previous agreements," warned Snow after noting that "an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy can dramatically affect an otherwise loving long-term relationship," especially if "they discussed the possibility and specifics (of pregnancy) at the start of the relationship."

The presumed conclusion of the pre-pregnancy discussion is that the man "may hope she's going to stick to the original plan and terminate the pregnancy."

The column has been criticized for focusing on the wants and preferred lifestyle of the man, while relegating the conceived child to non-person status and the mother to an irrational and emotional basketcase that can be persuaded to deny her new maternal feelings if the right technique is used on her.

Considering the life-changing effect of becoming parents, Snow states, "Don't just tell her you don't want to be a father." Snow suggests eliciting economic considerations by asking "Who's going to care for the baby while you're working? Will you have to move to a new home? Will you have to sell your Harley and get a station wagon?"

"You just need to take care with the presentation," Snow advises. "When you're ready to share your opinion, you'll want to use a calm, steady tone. You'll also want to take care with your word choice; pregnant women tend to feel like they're carrying someone, as opposed to something, even if she is just a month or so pregnant."

Snow concludes that if the man follows all her "steps" and the "woman decides to have the baby anyway, this does not mean you're required to get married or move in together," and finally abrogates all fatherhood responsibility by stating, "This was her decision, not yours, and the bulk of the responsibility is now hers."

Serrin Foster, President of Feminists for Life, told the Catholic News Agency she thought Snow's column was "absolutely vile" but did reveal the  pressure a pregnant woman can face from "fearful fathers, embarrassed parents, well-meaning friends, people in medical settings in high schools and colleges who don't see a way for her to have a baby and continue her education or career."

"It's very reminiscent about what we hear from women who have been to clinics to have an abortion," she remarked. She added that the content of the column "isn't anything new," but does speak to "the need of the pro-life movement and the pro-woman and pro-man movement to speak about the important benefits of having children in their lives."

Well known pro-life speaker, columnist and blogger Jill Stanek observed that the essence of the Snow's column is the promotion of men's selfishness.

"Copious hints and suggestions are given to help the man make his partner feel relaxed and comfortable as he attempts to convince her that an abortion is the most favorable option. It's for a purely selfish motive: becoming a father could "put tremendous stress on a relationship, particularly if [he doesn't] want to have a child, but [doesn't] want to lose the girl, either," Stanek writes.

"Ultimately, according to Snow, if a man has made it clear he has no desire for the pregnancy to continue, he is freed from any obligation to stick with the relationship."

Following the criticism over the column, it was pulled from the website earlier today. Enquiries by LifeSiteNews to AskMen.com for an explanation for this were not returned.



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"You just need to take care with the presentation," Snow advises. "When you're ready to share your opinion, you'll want to use a calm, steady tone. You'll also want to take care with your word choice; pregnant women tend to feel like they're carrying someone, as opposed to something, even if she is just a month or so pregnant."

That's because she is carrying a BABY you jackass!

1 posted on 07/11/2009 7:54:17 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 07/11/2009 7:55:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 07/11/2009 7:56:20 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
...pregnant women tend to feel like they're carrying someone, as opposed to something.

WTF?!

4 posted on 07/11/2009 7:57:34 AM PDT by library user
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To: wagglebee

This may be useful in exposing the LIE that MEN are pro-life, while WOMEN are pro-aborts.

The reality is reverse, and for reasons that both are obvious and reflect poorly on many members of my gender.


5 posted on 07/11/2009 7:57:50 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: wagglebee

What a wicked witch


6 posted on 07/11/2009 7:58:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Think of the D Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: wagglebee

A guide for selfish misogynistic chauvinists.


7 posted on 07/11/2009 7:58:32 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: wagglebee

“The advice column was written by Isabella Snow, who is described as a Sex Education Correspondent”

Soon to be hired by liberal public schools to teach teenagers how to perform the best of their worst.


8 posted on 07/11/2009 8:00:46 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer
Soon to be hired by liberal public schools to teach teenagers how to perform the best of their worst.

Zero might make her the Abortion Czar.

9 posted on 07/11/2009 8:02:27 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Although I don't like coercion I take a moderate view that it should be rare, safe and legal? Kinda like shooting abortion doctors.

Seriously, the “rare, safe & legal” tag should be thrown out at every opportunity to satirize the acceptance of the unacceptable and to highlight the absurdity of describing violence as safe.

Beating hippies? Sure, as long as its rare, safe, but legal.

10 posted on 07/11/2009 8:04:42 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: wagglebee

Of course, and believe me — a lot of men will coerce their girlfriend to abort because they will also be thinking about child support payments in case they ditch her in the future.


11 posted on 07/11/2009 8:08:50 AM PDT by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: SampleMan

LOL.

Tell them that you think slavery is okay, as long as it is rare, safe and legal.


12 posted on 07/11/2009 8:09:43 AM PDT by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: wagglebee
At least now it's right out in the open. No one can now deny that this kind of thing is happening. Women and girls need to know about this kind of manipulation so that they are prepared to defend themselves and their unborn children.
13 posted on 07/11/2009 8:10:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
Snow concludes that if the man follows all her "steps" and the "woman decides to have the baby anyway, this does not mean you're required to get married or move in together," and finally abrogates all fatherhood responsibility by stating, "This was her decision, not yours, and the bulk of the responsibility is now hers."

Hasn't she heard of child support?
What a selfish, bitter take on life she must have.
14 posted on 07/11/2009 8:11:12 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: rom; SampleMan
Tell them that you think slavery is okay, as long as it is rare, safe and legal.

Tell them that you are "personally opposed" to murder, rape, arson and armed robbery, but you don't believe in "imposing" your values on those who are okay with murder, rape, abortion and armed robbery.

15 posted on 07/11/2009 8:16:49 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trisham

It’s not out in the open, the website pulled the “advice” column after various groups denounced it.


16 posted on 07/11/2009 8:18:04 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BibChr
Abortion has rarely been about women, it has mostly been about men being able to have sex without consequences.

Most of the feminist movement was to make it easier for men to be cads.

17 posted on 07/11/2009 8:27:58 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Yep. Sad but true.

Talk about your “inconvenient truth.”


18 posted on 07/11/2009 8:41:35 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: wagglebee

Quote about the offending article:

“The column has been criticized for focusing on the wants and preferred lifestyle of the man, while relegating the conceived child to non-person status and the mother to an irrational and emotional basketcase that can be persuaded to deny her new maternal feelings if the right technique is used on her.”

In other words, the feminist movement succeeded in reducing women to little more than whores, men to predators and children to objects needing to be detroyed!

Success!!!...

...for Satan.


19 posted on 07/11/2009 8:49:44 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: wagglebee

Satan no longer slinks about. Because of his servants’ success in transforming America, he now saunters about openly, his ways praised as good, his goal worshipped as enlightenment.


20 posted on 07/11/2009 8:53:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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