Posted on 07/11/2009 6:31:56 AM PDT by bray
But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. Gal 5:5
Spent the last two days in the Belly of the Beast. This FReeper got an inside peek at the halls of learning while going through registration at the UofOregon. They are no longer a institution of learning but a Seminary for the religion of Liberalism. Everybody both student and professor appear to reach for the perfect 100% PC rating. All of the female professors are Butch and the men are completely feminine, especially the ones w/beards. If we were given $1 for every time we heard the word diversity then they would be owing me tuition $$. I thought my church services were based on faith and religious dogma until I sat through a sample classroom. The only thing he didnt do was stone a Christian.
Sitting in a mock science classroom, of course I figured there would be evolution since it was a science class so I was ready to just accept it. Problem is that there was no way to sit through the dogma filled speech that was given. The class started w/the obligatory statement that Global Warming was a fact and science was the canary for the unwashed masses. He then went on w/a very manipulated set of examples. He had to show the usual visual parlor tricks that make you think one thing is something that it isnt. Basically making the case that we werent paying attention while the "tiger was at your back".
He then manipulated some stats to show certain things more deadly then others. He drops in how high the hourly rate of dying in Vietnam out of the blue yet leaves out Iraq since that number would be too low for his agenda.. His final point was that childbirth was the most dangerous activity of all. Course he leaves out the part about Turd World prenatal care and makes it sound like our childbirth is excessively dangerous. His political agenda couldnt be any more clear. The irony of the speech was that it was a speech on Bias while he was the most biased person in the room. He then of course went into the evolution tirade. Starting this portion w/the statement, "there are people who think the earth is only 8,000 yrs old, does anyone know how old the earth really is?" "4.8 billion yrs, does everyone realize what the % of error that is? Over 1 million percent wrong." Mocking anyone who didnt buy the Big Bang theory. Then he started going into the ol Darwin time line showing the different mileposts as dates in the year and the ape of course was in late Dec. Gosh, how enlightened this man is to throw the old evolution cliche at us while underlining his absolute hatred of Christians.
That is when I had enough and axed a question. I axed, if someone doesnt believe in a subject like evolution does he have freedom to express his opinion in your class or would you rather he just memorize the points and regurgitate it on a test?
He said that some girl had taken his class a couple years earlier that had never heard of evolution and had only heard from her school that it was some type of evil theory. He said lots of schools dont teach it and he was doing a service to open their minds to a new idea.
I interrupted and asked how many schools dont teach evolution, all schools teach it. We went back and forth a bit but in the end he said that he expected students to challenge thought and he said it was fine for them to question old theories. What he didnt say is that his speech was so intimidating that there is no way a kid would dare to put themselves on the spot w/someone who was so Fundamental about his beliefs. A kid would be afraid of this guy and to put their grade on the line to make a point, there is little chance of him getting questioned. A pair of parents thanked me after the class and said what how biased guy he was on a lecture about Bias. Then the fun began...
Walking back from dropping my car off to the next lecture who is walking down the street but Professor Biased. I said hope I wasnt too hard on him and he said it was fine he needed to be challenged on students being able to exchange ideas.
Then I opened the box when I said that science has become corrupted by the argument on Global Warming. I said that when science becomes political then the people can no longer trust it. I then went on to say that scientists are so intimidated by Group Think that anybody who goes against the group are basically destroyed politically.
He asked me about my politics and told him I was a Conservative. He said there were a couple at the UO but not many since academia tends to attract Liberals. People who are willing to challenge conventional wisdom and go against the established thought more than Conservatives. I piped in, Or vice versa! His flunky laughed at that one while it flew right over his pointy head he was so involved w/his navel lint.
He said Group Think was not true and that scientists not only like being challenged but always try to challenge their own theories. He then went on later to call the scientists who disagree w/GW non-scientists and discredited them professionally. This is the old evolution scam where anybody who disagrees is not really a scientist and the ones who decides which ones count are the ones who agree w/GW which is why they have consensus. The desparate tactic of someone losing the argument. Later he used the term consensus when he talked about evolution being accepted by all real scientists. At least he was consistent.
He then went on and on about the credibility of GW and how he has attended all of these conferences that were non-political Climate Change conferences. He stressed how he was apolitical and how he never knew the politics of anybody in science. Funny how I knew not only what Party he belonged to in the first 2 mins of his lecture but am sure hes never voted for a Republican in his life. He was nearly as hard to peg as algore. Imagine what a hero he is on campus carrying a Holy Sacrament like GW. Even though he was apolitical he was going on about Cap and Trade and how a better program was Cap and Share/Marxism.
He then went on about how there was a plan in the offing about salting the clouds w/zink to make them rain and cool the earth. He was saying that the oceans are so bad that there is a momentum theory that says even if we stopped producing evil CO2 the oceans would keep increasing and the planet will superheat. Kinda like the Dr who tells you you got lung cancer and you have 2 weeks to live, smoke em if ya got em. All he needed was a "World Ends Tomorrow" sign.
I asked him about how credible was the data and he said 90%, how convenient. We already saw how he was manipulating the numbers in the danger of dying portion of the lecture, so we know he is a liar and is manipulating that 90% like Enron in an audit. Turns out he is using ocean temp data from 10 yrs ago that have been discredited by more accurate measuring methods that show no heating of the ocean. Even if it were 90%, do you destroy an economy w/a 10% chance of being wrong, especially w/their track record?
Then I brought up rain increasing if the temp of the ocean increases which would cool the eart. He had no answer except that El Nino or La Nina I can never remember which one was the worst for us. The real doomsday scenario I found was the end of Ninoes which is about to happen and then were all dead, blah, blah, blah. Anybody want a smoke?
What an eye opener. Speaking to one of the true Fundamentalist Priests of Liberalism w/his blinders switched to lead setting. His faith was enshrined in his belief in science. He had a lot to lose since if he was wrong his entire life and smug hatred towards God was a fraud, then what? A life wasted. After I had time to digest what he said I caught him in a number of lies. Basically, he played a couple of cheap parlor tricks to say you should ignore your eyes and believe what he had to say. He had no proof and only the same ol arguments that Libs have been using for years.
He was able to drown me in phoney facts and figures but when he said the data was excellent he was making that up. He gave me a website to look at RealClimate.org that turns out has some counter sites which show that the data was being manipulated to say what they wanted it to say for political reasons. It may be the most biased website on the web. This is a website that was set up by a media group to promote Cap America. Those close minded scientists must hate the internet? He said he was not political when he knew more about Cap and Trade and his favorite which was Cap and Share than he should. He said he was willing to bankrupt the Country to avoid the coming crisis. He brought up Green energy to replace our economy like that was real.
In the end the only thing we agreed on was that we needed more Nuclear. He finally admits that we Conservatives were right about Nuclear for the last 30 yrs. Well that and the Ice Age scare and the Ozone Layer scare and Now Global Scamming scare. Scientists need more faith in their gods than I have in mine. Its just that Im honest about my religion. He was a Priest at the UO Liberal Seminary whose calling was to convince as many kids as possible that GW was real and we needed to turn to Marxism to save the World. Sadly it was a peek into most of the professors lives. What a day!
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Can't fault him for lack of experience!
Way to go, bray. Great report/effort/effect you may have on some students.
Have I gone off a "right angles" to my parents teachings and expectations on occasion? Why sure, but in my generation, lies were not quoted as being "proven facts" and Gaia was practiced somewhere "over yonder across the seas...", and quite a few perfessers really did listen to an opposing viewpoint! Amazing stuff.
But today after they've lost their true faith (no all but an alarming number do), then they struggle to get back and find that the "church" basically espouses the same drivel.
I'm amazed that any find the right WAY at all, but our job is to keep contending for the faith, thanks Bray.
"...Because strait is the gate and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (Matt 7:14 KJV)
I think Ann Coulter put forth a good number of arguments challenging evolution in one of her books. I think it was the book about liberal lies.
Exactly, I will be praying for my son daily to fight against this drivel that he will have shoveled.
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What were the argtuments?
Great story, glad you could stand up to him. I’ve got you beat in one way. I had Howard Zinn for a professor before he was (in)famous. Unfortunately, I wasn’t conservative yet. Took a few years to grow out of that nonsense he taught.
Sorry, I don’t have the book handy.
She talked about the Religion of Liberalism. The faith of evolution. The holy sacrament of abortion and the destruction of the family. Queen Ann Rox!
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bookmarked for later reading
I’m sure you were the talk of the faculty after that.
I’m sure the young bray will not only be able to handle it but he will become stronger in his faith because he’ll see right through the phony stuff that they preach.
Instead of being teachers they are preachers for their false religion.
Thanks bray. Praying for our kids that they will see what is right in the eyes of the Lord despite attempts to lead them astray.
What were the argtuments?I think Ann Coulter put forth a good number of arguments challenging evolution in one of her books. I think it was the book about liberal lies.6 posted on 07/11/2009 7:18:43 AM PDT by Enterprise
Godless: The Church of Liberalism
You can bet he and his flunky laughed at how they won the discussion yet I got to interview a High Priest of Liberalism. I will let them have that “win”.
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The Honduras Solution.
Devolve, that is hysterical.
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He was really upset w/China for adding a coal power plant every week. He never was able to connect the Marxism to it. Maybe he’s not as bright as he thinks.
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