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Report: Bush surveillance program was massive
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/09 | Pamela Hess - ap

Posted on 07/10/2009 5:12:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – The Bush administration built an unprecedented surveillance operation to pull in mountains of information far beyond the warrantless wiretapping previously acknowledged, a team of federal inspectors general reported Friday, questioning the legal basis for the effort but shielding almost all details on grounds they're still too secret to reveal.

The report, compiled by five inspectors general, refers to "unprecedented collection activities" by U.S. intelligence agencies under an executive order signed by President George W. Bush after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Just what those activities involved remains classified, but the IGs pointedly say that any continued use of the secret programs must be "carefully monitored."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; counterterrorism; fisa; massive; surveillance
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To: Bryan24

“2 Points.

#1 - No more attacks in the US.

#2 - How many US citizens have been prosecuted for crimes OTHER than terrorist related acivities due to these programs?
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Excellent points..


21 posted on 07/10/2009 5:41:46 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: NormsRevenge

Gentlemen don’t read other people’s mail, but since you have already, what did they write?


22 posted on 07/10/2009 5:42:36 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Two Ravens

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
—Benjamin Franklin
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Do you suppose they had jihadists capable of delivering dirty nukes back then? Just askin’...


23 posted on 07/10/2009 5:42:55 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: Typical_Whitey

So then are we to assume that Obama is not using the same techniques? or he is only because its Obama its OK?
++++++++++++++++

Another great question for the freakin’ hypocrites...


24 posted on 07/10/2009 5:44:15 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back! [I hate the TRAITORS in the enemedia.])
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To: NormsRevenge

They had to get Bush back in the headlines now that O’s polls are slipping! The way the media is covering for the recent G8 ogling photo is disgusting.


25 posted on 07/10/2009 5:50:33 PM PDT by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: SeattleBruce
Modernists love to cite contemporary reasons as to why every one of our founding principles are no longer relevant. But those principles will always apply
26 posted on 07/10/2009 6:00:48 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Two Ravens

I doubt Ben would apply that to our enemies. But a lefty would.


27 posted on 07/10/2009 6:02:40 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Bryan24

“#2 - How many US citizens have been prosecuted for crimes OTHER than terrorist related activities due to these programs?”

There you go - introducing logic. You might as well sprinkle holy water on a vampire as confront a liberal with logic...


28 posted on 07/10/2009 6:03:21 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Do two ravens make a right? Nah...didn’t think so!


29 posted on 07/10/2009 6:04:12 PM PDT by ltrman61
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To: 38special

Ergo, BO is free to sniff teenage butt.


30 posted on 07/10/2009 6:04:15 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: ltrman61

I agree with your assessment.


31 posted on 07/10/2009 6:05:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I doubt Ben would apply that to our enemies. But a lefty would.

There were real dangers aplenty when Franklin made that quote, and he was certainly aware of them. Foundational principles don't change

32 posted on 07/10/2009 6:10:09 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Two Ravens

That doesn’t address my statement.


33 posted on 07/10/2009 6:14:42 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: 38special
They had to get Bush back in the headlines now that O’s polls are slipping! The way the media is covering for the recent G8 ogling photo is disgusting.

They even had a pic of W with his arms stretched out posted on Yahoo Mail all day...gee, you'd think with Barry and his bride visiting the Pope and all.
34 posted on 07/10/2009 6:19:08 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: DJ MacWoW
That doesn’t address my statement.

I posted the Franklin quote to apply founding conservative wisdom to the case of a modern liberal president (Bush). Your personal views concerning "lefties" are off topic and of no interest to me.

35 posted on 07/10/2009 6:19:32 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Bryan24
How many US citizens have been prosecuted for crimes OTHER than terrorist related acivities due to these programs?

Come to think of it....people in my neighborhood disappeared regularly during Bush's evil reign!
36 posted on 07/10/2009 6:25:40 PM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: DoughtyOne

These apparently are not the IGs who have been fired for not playing along with the Democrats.


37 posted on 07/10/2009 6:26:50 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The Democrats have returned to their game of supporting totalitarian regimes. Now they're muslim.)
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To: Two Ravens

What liberty has anyone given up?


38 posted on 07/10/2009 6:27:27 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The Democrats have returned to their game of supporting totalitarian regimes. Now they're muslim.)
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To: Two Ravens
I posted the Franklin quote to apply founding conservative wisdom to the case of a modern liberal president (Bush). Your personal views concerning "lefties" are off topic and of no interest to me.

And you are dodging. I said, I doubt Ben would have applied that statement to our enemies. But a lefty would. You've danced but not addressed what I said.

39 posted on 07/10/2009 6:28:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: NormsRevenge

No terrorist attacks after 911 in the United States.

Nuff said.


40 posted on 07/10/2009 6:30:03 PM PDT by Venturer
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