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‘Cardiac Death’ Allows One to Kill the Organ Donor
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/10/09 | Dr. John Shea MD FRCP

Posted on 07/10/2009 2:09:59 PM PDT by wagglebee

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In 1997, the Pittsburgh Protocol declared that cardiac arrest lasting two to five minutes causes 'cardiac death' and that it is ethically acceptable to remove vital organs for transplantation if a person is in cardiac arrest. The evidence provided by Dr. Buckberg and others directly contradicts this.

And the culture of death will IGNORE this.

1 posted on 07/10/2009 2:09:59 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 07/10/2009 2:10:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 07/10/2009 2:12:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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We won’t have this with Obama Death Care.


4 posted on 07/10/2009 2:21:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: wagglebee

Of course a lot of smaller hospitals wouldn’t be able to provide timely access to a heart lung machine .


5 posted on 07/10/2009 2:27:54 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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I seem to remember that there was an attempt to make organ donation mandatory in England. Am I wrong?
6 posted on 07/10/2009 2:29:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Under Obama care, your survival may depend on not being an organ donor match to a Senator, Supreme Court justice or high ranking member of Acorn. If you match you're a goner.
7 posted on 07/10/2009 2:30:38 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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Under Obama care, your survival may depend on not being an organ donor match to a Senator, Supreme Court justice or high ranking member of Acorn. If you match you're a goner.
8 posted on 07/10/2009 2:31:07 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: trisham

They did.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 2:33:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trisham

U.K. Prime Minister to Press Ahead on Presumed Consent Organ Donation

Use Aborted Children to Make up Shortfall of Transplant Organs: Oxford Stem Cell Expert


10 posted on 07/10/2009 2:36:11 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Much as I don’t particularly feel good about it, this is why I’m not an organ donor.

If I felt like I had any control over when my organs would be taken from me, I might consider it.


11 posted on 07/10/2009 2:37:34 PM PDT by mhx
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To: KarlInOhio

Well said.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 2:43:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: wagglebee

As The Aztec Journal of Heart Surgery said, “Who would want a heart from a dead person anyway? If the donor isn’t up, we don’t cut”.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 2:51:13 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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“And the culture of death will ignore this”

No, they will celebrate this.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 2:55:34 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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I didn’t know this! Treated like property of the state. Amazing.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 3:05:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: wagglebee

Fortunately I have no organs anyone would want.

Even if I did, I would want them to wait until full rigor had set in before making any move.

And then I’d want them to wait a few more hours.


16 posted on 07/10/2009 3:06:55 PM PDT by Ole Okie (American)
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Had to laugh at your response: me too

Unstable angina = heart no good

Smoker for 50 years = Lungs no good

IBS = G I system no good

Periodically kidney problems = nope on the kidneys

The only possible thing that might work well is the liver as I have never been a drinker...Anyone want a 70 year old liver?

17 posted on 07/10/2009 3:22:18 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: wagglebee

Lawyers across America are salivating uncontrollably at this.

Imagine what will happen when a heart is “harvested” and the family finds out the ‘donor’ signature on the donor card was forged.

Bummer.

Moral: Don’t sign any donor cards.


18 posted on 07/10/2009 3:38:29 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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Anyone want a 70 year old liver?

Don't offer, granny. Livers are in short supply.

I'm going to set my ICD to shock any eager beaver doctor who might decide to lift any body parts prematurely.

19 posted on 07/10/2009 3:43:53 PM PDT by Ole Okie (American)
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Anyone want a 70 year old liver?

Perhaps with some Fava beans and a nice Chianti?

20 posted on 07/10/2009 4:06:24 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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