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Mike Murphy: To go forward, GOP must snap out of its Sarah Palin spell
The New York Daily News ^ | July 9, 2009 | Mike Murphy

Posted on 07/09/2009 8:07:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: SoCalPol
He wold not win in the West, North, North East, etc.

Jesus hisself could not get elected on the west coast or northeast today except maybe NH in a good year...neither could Reagan now for that matter....the demographics have killed us and we let it happen.

we cannot make latinos become conservative and never will we move enough blacks...they are a lost cause.

motivate more whites off their butts or give it up and become a GOP more like Scoop Jackson Dems ...

it might be too late anyhow but Palin is the best true conservative out there and she draws folks...I'd like to see if it works and yes, she will have to run head on against the media like no one ever has

this is where we are as conservatives...the cold hard facts.

3-4 senators and half dozen critters, maybe a couple of pragmatic governors, Rush, Sean, some lesser knowns and SARAH...that's it

anything outside that and it's bullshite GOP Daddy Bush-Queeg-Rockefeller garbage...almost always a loser

161 posted on 07/09/2009 10:09:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life...........Sarah Palin, there is no substitute)
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To: wardaddy

Am glad to see you are on board with Gov. Palin.

Yes, it is a fact re some groups of voters.
They are kept as wards of the state and enjoy
every min. of it.

So many transplants in CAlif. besides the illegals
makes for an bad situation.
Here in San Diego 3 of our 5 congressmen are Conservative Republicans.


162 posted on 07/09/2009 10:28:15 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For a woman who is done and committed political hari kari she sure gets a hell of lot of print.


163 posted on 07/09/2009 10:57:10 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Everybody, looks good...at the starting line......."Paul Thorn")
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To: wardaddy

Understood and agreed, but it just doesn’t seem like the time is right for that. No-one really stands out to me though, I can think of no conservative, male, charismatic leader at this time. It takes a dynamic person to win a national election.

Remember how utterly boring it was to listen to McCain speak? He seemed on the verge of falling straight asleep sometimes, whereas Palin seemed to be able to capture an entire audience repeatedly. Not only does she have this X factor, her politics are solid as well. We would be extremely foolish not to support a person such as this, at least, in my opinion.


164 posted on 07/09/2009 11:06:48 PM PDT by chris37
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Who is Mark Murhpy (Michael E. Murphy)?

Hmm... This is beginning to be fun! :) Seriously, we should learn who these guys are. These are very powerful people... Politicians depend on them (they 'morph' into political hacks / Lobyists / "contributors" to Lefty rags to name a few.)

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165 posted on 07/09/2009 11:21:22 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war on family-values is *** DEAFENING ***)
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To: ElPatriota
Correction: MIKE MURPHY (not Mark)
166 posted on 07/09/2009 11:24:25 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war on family-values is *** DEAFENING ***)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guys credibility is based on what?

This washington bottom feeder is part of the problem if you ask me.

The grass roots has to re-assert control over the party despite this washington bull-manure they’re spreading about Sarah.


167 posted on 07/09/2009 11:57:35 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain-Palin were ahead after the convention; then McCain got flaky when he suspended his campaign just like Perot in 1992.

He was finished when he did that.

168 posted on 07/09/2009 11:59:30 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

If forward = left then this article is spot on.


169 posted on 07/10/2009 12:05:31 AM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: mrsixpack36
He is correct. As much as we all like Palin, she is NOT electable on the top of the ticket. She can be a valuable member of the party and help the GOP a lot. Its time we be real, while we still have the time.

What a coincidence. I have been hearing this same talking point from other people that joined up as the same time as you.
170 posted on 07/10/2009 12:14:43 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Are you his valet or his pool boy?

Check the born on date. There is a great deal of this talking point being posted lately with the same MO.
171 posted on 07/10/2009 12:18:38 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: mrsixpack36
We have to be honest with ourselves. Sarah Palin is the feel-good candidate that we all like. I would rather have the candidate that can beat Obama in 2012, instead of a losing novelty candidate like Palin. Sorry I just want to win.

Sure you do.
172 posted on 07/10/2009 12:23:54 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: roses of sharon
SP threads always bait the trolls.

Bingo. Admin has even snagged some big fish sleepers.
173 posted on 07/10/2009 12:31:02 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: TChad

Unlike liberals, conservatives WILL stay home on election day if they don’t like what’s on the menu. What the inside-the-beltway elite within the GOP are missing is that the base Murphy so easily assumes would have supported McCain regardless of his running mate are the very folks turned off by moderate positions on immigration such as McCain advanced (or tried to). They are NOT “reliably Republican.”

The RNC/Bush White House and the McCain amnesty crowd turned off conservatives to the extent that they lost the Congress in ‘06. Had McCain not chosen Palin (or someone equally able to reenergize the ‘base’) McCain would have been lucky to get 40% of the 2008 vote.

Whether Sarah Palin chooses to go for the GOP nomination in ‘12, and whether she should be the nominee are questions for another day. But she will surely know who to hire and not should she decide to make it a run. These guys are revealing themselves in extraordinary ways.


174 posted on 07/10/2009 12:38:47 AM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: rintense
"awful choice"

This guy is delusional. The fact is the McCain-Palin ticket was ahead in the polls until the late September financial crash...chiefly due to Palin. This guy obviously didn't like her from the get-go. Does he believe that anyone other than Palin would have come closer? That's extremely doubtful.

175 posted on 07/10/2009 2:09:40 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: mrsixpack36
"just want to win"

Who is your candidate? Nobody else in the Republican Party has the appeal of Sarah Palin. That is the facts.

176 posted on 07/10/2009 2:11:27 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Murphy sucks at his job. Maybe if he was good at what he does I would take him more serious.


177 posted on 07/10/2009 5:34:17 AM PDT by linn37 (cue the circus music the democrats are back in charge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain was an awful choice for her running mate.


178 posted on 07/10/2009 6:29:33 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: chris37

you must not have read my tag...i am one of Sarah’s biggest supporters here and only donated large to Queeg because of her

but I don’t much cotton to the “no old guys” logic.

for one I am quite pleased (overall) as to how they ran this nation for nearly 200 years until the Civil Rights-Great Society-Out of Control Supreme Court- Uncontrolled Immigration era of 35-40 years ago began...which along with FDR is what got us to where we are now...in an abyss....I’m not sure Palin can cure all that but she’s our best hope for now but her sex has nothing to do with it other than she’s very pretty. It’s what she says, lives and how she delivers it.

It’s really simple. Out of all the “contenders” she’s the only real social conservative with a chance.

Look around at those here who hate her and glean their posts and you find they have never been big social conservatives


179 posted on 07/10/2009 7:08:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life...........Sarah Palin, there is no substitute)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So many McCain cockroaches, so little time...


180 posted on 07/10/2009 7:11:38 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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