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No charges filed against Sneads Ferry man who shot intruder(NC)
JDnews.com ^ | 7 July, 2009 | LINDELL KAY

Posted on 07/09/2009 4:26:26 AM PDT by marktwain

A Sneads Ferry man who shot a teenager charged with trying to break into the man's home Monday will not be charged, authorities said.

Landon Crews, of Crows Nest Lane, shot 18-year-old Cyle Norris early Monday morning. Detectives with the Onslow County Sheriff's Department said Norris was trying to crawl through a broken window when Crews shot him in the right forearm with No. 7 shot from a 12-gauge shotgun.

Norris and three other local men were charged with first-degree burglary, possession of burglary tools and conspiracy.

North Carolina state law says that Crews was within his rights to shoot an intruder breaking into his home. General Statute 14-51.1 states, "A lawful occupant within a home or other place of residence is justified in using any degree of force that the occupant reasonably believes is necessary, including deadly force, against an intruder to prevent a forcible entry into the home or residence or to terminate the intruder's unlawful entry if the occupant reasonably apprehends that the intruder may kill or inflict serious bodily harm to the occupant or others in the home or residence, or if the occupant reasonably believes that the intruder intends to commit a felony in the home or residence."

The law also states that a lawful occupant has no duty to retreat from an intruder.

"The long and the short of it is he didn't break the law," Sheriff Ed Brown said.

Attempts by The Daily News to reach Crews were unsuccessful.

Authorities said Norris, Trevor Sturgis, 21, and David Sonye, 21, tried to break into Crews' house after Joseph Michael Greene III, 16, who is also accused of attempting to break in, was forcefully put out of the home 20 minutes prior.

The four men tried to break down the front door, break out windows and climb through, authorities said.

Crews - who was at home with his mother - told investigators that he warned them several times before shooting. The four accused intruders were given a bond of $50,000 each.

The Sheriff's Department is seeking to talk with James Austin Boone, who authorities believe was at the residence around the time of the shooting.

Anyone with information concerning Boone's whereabouts can contact the Jacksonville/Onslow Crime Stoppers at 910-938-3273 or Sheriff's Sgt. David South at 910-455-3113. Callers do not have to reveal their identities.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: banglist; home; nc; shotgun
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Much better reporting than usual. We have the shotgun gauge, the size of shot, more detail than we usually get. Too bad we do not have the make and model. A pretty scary situation, 4 young males trying to break into your house to get at you, and ignoring threats of deadly force.
1 posted on 07/09/2009 4:26:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

So, no happy ending?


2 posted on 07/09/2009 4:31:06 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Words are plentiful, but deeds are precious.- Lech Walesa)
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To: marktwain

The shooter should have used 00 (”double ought”) buckshot.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 4:31:32 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: marktwain
Lesson to be learned from this: NEVER use bird shot to deter invaders, it does not penetrate enough to do sufficient damage to stop or kill...nothing less than 4 buck and preferably 00 buck does the trick in a 12 ga. With a 20 ga, 3 buck is the only way to go.
4 posted on 07/09/2009 4:33:22 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: marktwain

Oh, gee, aren’t we grateful to our government for not prosecuting someone for protecting home and hearth against the vermin largely produced by government policy?

It’s too bad the homeowner wasn’t able to shoot all four of them to death.


5 posted on 07/09/2009 4:35:34 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: Mouton
#1 Buck is better than either.

http://firearmstactical.com/briefs10.htm

6 posted on 07/09/2009 4:36:56 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: marktwain

But of course, the leftist gun grabbers will say that Crews and his mother should have called 911 and hidden in a closet.


7 posted on 07/09/2009 4:41:00 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: bustinchops
I'm laying odds the perps will be flooded with phone calls from lawyers looking to sue in civil court.

It would be un-American to leave a law-abiding citizen alone /s.

8 posted on 07/09/2009 4:41:00 AM PDT by daler
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To: marktwain

Bird shot. Gotta hurt digging all those pellets out!

I like that law!


9 posted on 07/09/2009 4:41:11 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: marktwain
They were taking a real risk breaking into homes in Sneads Ferry. My son and two other Marine Sgts rented a home in Sneads Ferry for a couple of years and the small town is on the backside of Camp Lejeune and there are many Marines living there.
Being shot with #7 was a just lucky in my opinion.
10 posted on 07/09/2009 4:42:59 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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It wasn't a random burglary though, sounds more like a grudge fight. Guy got 'forcibly put out' of the house, went and rounded up some friends, and tried to bash the place down. Probably not a Marine living with his mama and getting in a spat with some buddies.

My guess is local no 'counts, nothing to do with Camp Lejeune.

My daughter's at Camp Lejeune this summer, I'm sure this'll be the talk of the town . . . . with most people saying "what'd he use bird shot for?" No. 7 is for sporting clays, not burglars!

11 posted on 07/09/2009 4:48:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: marktwain

Good Lord though, it reads as though there was some question or even desire to prosecute the homeowner. I don’t care if there is a written law, why would anyone prosecute a person for defending themselves against such an attack?


12 posted on 07/09/2009 4:54:54 AM PDT by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
No. 7 is for sporting clays, not burglars!

I disagree.

Birdshot is great for home defense. If you miss your target the shot is unlikely to pass through two layers of wallboard and kill a family member.

If you are going to use a shotgun for home defense I would recommend loading with birdshot. At indoor distances it has plenty of stopping power.

13 posted on 07/09/2009 4:58:09 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Mouton
Lesson to be learned from this: NEVER use bird shot to deter invaders, it does not penetrate enough to do sufficient damage to stop or kill...nothing less than 4 buck and preferably 00 buck does the trick in a 12 ga. With a 20 ga, 3 buck is the only way to go.

That's just not true. Buck and slug loads may be fine if you don't have neighbors near you, but for populated areas, bird shot is much safer for those beyond your property. And bird shot at self-defense ranges can absolutely harm and kill people. But the NC law doesn't allow someone to "kill" an invader, only stop the threat (which very well may end up in their death anyway).

Don't take my word for it: http://www.downrange.tv/bestdefense/wall-penetration.htm

Especially watch the last two minutes.

14 posted on 07/09/2009 5:06:34 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Have you punished an 0bama supporter today?)
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To: Pontiac
Birdshot is great for home defense.

Right on. Shoot a target a 5-ft, 8-ft, and 15-ft with bird shot and see what they look like. Makes hamburger.

The kid who was shot was lucky he didn't get hit with full full pattern.

15 posted on 07/09/2009 5:10:49 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Too many zeros in the budget. And the White House.)
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To: marktwain

I thought that town name sounded familiar. We go to the beach nearby every year and play Northshore golf course.


16 posted on 07/09/2009 5:13:26 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Niteranger68

I am not talking about slug loads as I see no use with them for home self defense.

Any firearm round can kill anyone, that is true, BUT when confronted with an immediate threat that requires instant stopping power, bird shot does not measure up to the standard of immediate. Immediate requires a penetration of the central nervous system and bird shot will not do that.

I hear you on the threat to others. Frankly I believe that to be over blown except in a city apartment situation. The most important thing in shooting is hitting the target. If you cannot do that, do not shoot.

The NC law follows that used by the Federal Authorities: To stop the individual from doing what caused you to shoot, (not to kill.) Frankly if faced with this horrible decision, I want to be certain the guy is not coming back, till the last day anyway.

Vince


17 posted on 07/09/2009 5:21:51 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Pontiac
No. 7 is a little light though. When I'm a gunner for hunting tests we use No. 5 or No. 6 on live fliers. The range is not inside-the-house close, but it's close, because my assistant is usually tossing Mr. or Mrs. Mallard by hand, and I get right on them because the handlers complain if the duck is not stone dead (of course, they also complain if you gut-shoot them, you just can't win).

I agree there's a penetration problem with the larger shot sizes - but for home defense I would think No. 4 or 5 would be better than 7.

18 posted on 07/09/2009 5:30:47 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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I'm sure this’ll be the talk of the town

Sneads Ferry is off the beaten path for most going in and out of the Camp. If she is located at either Courthouse Bay or Stone Bay she'll probably use the back gate.

19 posted on 07/09/2009 5:34:36 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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To: Mouton

The idea here seems to be that one assumes an intruder coming into one’s home despite warnings is PROBABLY ARMED. Therefore one assumes a wounded intruder is still very dangerous and will probably return fire if able. Not a good idea to practice underkill here, probably.

“The police asked the homeowner why the intruder was shot 8 times. The homeowner replied that the pistol only held 8 rounds.”


20 posted on 07/09/2009 5:38:57 AM PDT by Huebolt (John Galt does not subscribe to CABLE !)
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