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Airbus beats Boeing for orders
http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=835493 ^

Posted on 07/09/2009 4:05:56 AM PDT by darkness78

Plane giant Airbus booked more orders than rival Boeing in the first half of this year, according to figures released on Wednesday after the US firm saw almost all its orders cancelled


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That's a really bad news!
1 posted on 07/09/2009 4:05:56 AM PDT by darkness78
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To: darkness78

The Obama Legacy


2 posted on 07/09/2009 4:08:49 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: darkness78

IIRC, Boeing delayed many of the orders, if not all of them.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 4:10:47 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: darkness78
Plane giant Airbus booked more orders than rival Boeing

Airlines are probably just ordering replacements.

4 posted on 07/09/2009 4:14:57 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: darkness78

If I owned an airline I’d be wanting to know why the Air France Airbus went down in the Atlantic before I placed any more orders. Dead passengers are bad for business.


5 posted on 07/09/2009 4:20:06 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: darkness78

Customers need more replacements since Airbus planes fall down more often.


6 posted on 07/09/2009 4:20:32 AM PDT by nightlight7
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To: darkness78

I see these stories every year and at the end of every year Boeing sells more planes.


7 posted on 07/09/2009 4:21:07 AM PDT by bluejay
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Most all Boeing orders cancelled? Is this related to the Dreamliner problems?


8 posted on 07/09/2009 4:22:48 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: darkness78

When a strong wind gusts
you don’t want your tail to fail
be sure fly Boeing.


9 posted on 07/09/2009 4:24:38 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: darkness78

These are tough times for airlines who don’t need the aircraft today they ordered yesterday. The World economy is lessening the ability of many airline operators to make purchases of new replacement aircraft sensible financially.

Those in the know might dispute my analogy to the old airline operators, as well Trucking Industry overbooking scheme to ensure planes/trailers were full upon departure, but I believe that is what I saw Boeing do over the years with booking their new aircraft off the production line, and fudging so-to-speak on the delivery schedule.

From what I’ve read it appears that not only the tough times, but the delays in delivery are substantially the reason for their loss of bookings.


10 posted on 07/09/2009 4:26:32 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Truth29
Most all Boeing orders cancelled?

Nonsense. I don't know what this moron was trying to say, but this just can't be it. Boeing has well over 500 orders for the 787 on its books and is apparently planning on opening a second 787 production line in South Carolina, according to the news of two days ago.

SOME 787 orders have been cancelled, but Beoing still has its 787 order book filled for YEARS ahead. And new orders will come in to replace those lost due to the delay in delivery.

11 posted on 07/09/2009 4:29:42 AM PDT by John Valentine
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If it aint’ Boeing, I ain’t going.


12 posted on 07/09/2009 4:31:06 AM PDT by ArmoredCav (Obama is Soros' puppet)
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To: Truth29

After reading this atrociously written article, I think what the author was trying to say is that Airbus beat Boeing in NET orders through the first half of 2009, since Boeing has had relatively more cancellations than Airbus.

When the nitwit says that Boeiong had almost all their orders cancelled, he was trying, but failing, to say that cancellations (of past orders) nearly completely offset the new orders.

Whatever has happened to the educational system! Even people who ostensibly write for a living can’t manage to say what they mean. Or, maybe the writer was too dense to understand the raw data he was trying to analyze. Either way, its a sign of someone way out of their depth.


13 posted on 07/09/2009 4:38:15 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: darkness78

Yeah, this makes sense. The airplane that is falling out of the sky for unknown reasons is the best seller. Sounds like the “purchasing” people have gone to the low bidder again. Bean counters don’t (AND NEVER WILL) understand value ... they get bonuses based on SAVINGS ... and the final product bears that stamp. This is why “bids” are dangerous ... you get what you pay for.


14 posted on 07/09/2009 4:44:03 AM PDT by DHC-2 (my flags: http://www.jdlinn.com/liberty.html)
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To: ArmoredCav

I can top that. I haven’t flown since before 9 11 and while I may in the future I have a long memory of what the airline industry did prior to that day. TSA stories don’t exactly make me want to fly anytime soon either.


15 posted on 07/09/2009 4:51:51 AM PDT by xp38
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To: darkness78

I fly a lot these days on Airbuses, Boeing and regional jets.

I don’t have a choice of aircraft when I fly, but I’m always more comfortable on a Boeing - they fly better and don’t sound as though parts are falling off or malfunctioning when they take to the sky.


16 posted on 07/09/2009 5:27:11 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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If it aint’ Boeing, I ain’t going.

"Air Bust" or "Air Burst".

AirBus==NoFlyZone

17 posted on 07/09/2009 5:40:15 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: darkness78

Considering the 330 Airbus problems, I’ll ride only in a Boeing. Especially since Airbus knew about the Pitot-static tube problem, and did nothing about it. .


18 posted on 07/09/2009 6:44:57 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: DHC-2
This is why “bids” are dangerous ... you get what you pay for.

I always used to marvel at how government would spend ridiculous amounts on items from toilet seats to hammers.

Then I worked at a place with many government bids coming in weekly.

After two months of carefully bidding on government contracts and winning several, the regulations, paperwork and packaging costs netted a loss on every order.

Then I was ordered to overbid with ridiculous amounts so we would not be bothered with onerous government orders and their regulations and paperwork.

And we still won the contract orders.

But, boy did we make a profit!

To this day I am still curious as to what our competitors were bidding that enabled us to win the orders.

19 posted on 07/09/2009 7:01:16 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: darkness78
We are still pussy footing around in Canada over a huge Airbus related hints of unethical play. Years ago a six billion contract was up for grabs. Airbus took it over Boeing. A small rotund man, one Karl Heinz Schreiber seemed to be waltzing around with a lot of money. A "German Canadian" citizen. The good folks in Western Canada told him to take off- get lost. Eastern Canada loved the guy.

Now the Germans wanted this man really bad. Bribery, corruption and non-payment of taxes. The Canadians have the helicopter ready for him to Lufthansa Airways. Suddenly Karl Heinz comes up with a real shocker. Former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, had taken 300,000 dollars in different envelopes in a hotel room. He did by his own admission. "I will tell you more" says Karl- Heinz.

The hearings have cost umpteen million dollars and still old Karl Heinz in free in Canada. He says he has more, do not deport me. It is claimed the money was to lobby (after Mulroney retired) for a light armoured car plant in Eastern Canada. The Liberal opposition have more or less tried to tie this in with the Airbus Contract. What we poor peasants (self) do not know, is that these contracts could well be a matter of absolute unethical tactics.

Could Boeing be trying to play it like a bunch of ethical upright amateurs in a game of poker?

20 posted on 07/09/2009 8:53:39 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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