U.S. Interests In Honduras Matter

IBD Editorials ^ | July 8, 2009

[Kaslin]

Diplomacy: Outsourcing U.S. foreign policy to the OAS may sound good, but the reality remains that all nations, including ours, have interests. That may be why the U.S. is now shifting to a more workable stance on Honduras.

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Tuesday announced a realistic plan to resolve the Honduras crisis by forging a deal with Costa Rican President Oscar Arias to mediate a solution to the issue of who rules the Central American country.

Acting after meeting with ousted President Mel Zelaya, who was thrown out June 28 in a constitutional process, her initiative shows just how badly relying on the Organization of American States (OAS) has failed for the U.S. The new Arias plan may just succeed.

It couldn't come at a better time. Last Friday, OAS Secretary-General Jose Miguel Insulza strutted like a colonial grandee into Tegucigalpa, threatening sanctions and the expulsion of Honduras if it didn't restore Zelaya. He refused to meet President Roberto Micheletti, warning: "We are not going to Honduras to negotiate."

It only strengthened Honduras' resolve against letting Zelaya return. After Insulza raised the stakes, Zelaya tried to fly into Tegucigalpa's airport, setting off riots that left two dead.

Government support strengthened though, with the Church, businesses and crowds in the streets all holding together.

"Honduras is an example to the world. We don't have money. We don't have oil. We have balls," read a hand-lettered sign from a defiant street protester in support of his government.

[Kaslin]

Ping

[watusa1775]

We have balls jaja that funny, we thought Hillary also had..

Vamos a ver que pasa....

Obama mis speak, toss hot potato to Hillary, she toss potato to Arias. Poor Arias.

Zelaya provoke demonstration. If he care about Honduras, not his wallet, he say yes, you got me on video, I’m guilty, I resign, I go to jail. And then everything normal.

Chavez and Zelaya made all factory close since 7/2 because he want put people on street stress out make them worry. Mitcheleit say they pay all days, people go back to work today after big march go well, massive.

Still, no picture of massive march on you call MSM.

If OAS can violate charter to meddle, as you say, then can Hondurans SUE MSM for slanderous reporting and misinformation (I have my diccionario aqui!). If Chavez and Zelaya are guilty of extortion, bribery, then is media also guilty for lying and making facts look one way only to get stupid people who believe anthying to riot?

Honduras want to sue CNN. Can we do this? STN, ABC, BBC, NBC, CBS also and some FOX. We not beleive, but we google and best report from here, Canada Free Press. Telemundo y Univision slant much also. HLN did good report. They only one, many times show both sides.

We have video phone here and one person tape TV or web or youtube and send everybody.

Listen Hillary, Hondruas may have some poor places, but US also, but we make ninos stay in school. They take civics, world history, some US history, and learn about CONSTITUTIONS and typos de gubernidad. We are not dumb and this not Banana Republic (always make me laugh to see $98 tag on $5 shirt). Remember the republic part, and banana make you strong.

US on wrong side with China, Russia, Iran. How stupid this new Obama? Famous Amos you sell out your friends of 35 years here in Honduras, so Obama, you go to hell with Chavez. We have stong principles, you do not, you need figure out what you believe and what not. 80% of Hondurans are fans of democracy, big, crazy mess but work very well for us, we do very well. I read that you do social medicine? Bad idea. We have this, but you still save money to go to PRIVATE doctor, because public doctor AWFUL. They kill you.

[don-o]

ping

[FromLori]

Good article on that earlier today

A warning to President Obama from John F. Kennedy.

President Obama has denounced the actions taken by the Honduran Congress, Supreme Court and military, all actions taken under the rule of law — Honduran law — in the nonviolent arrest and removal from office of strongman (caudillo) Manuel Zelaya. President Obama’s denunciation was based, using Jay D. Homnick’s apt phrase, on “standard collegiate peacenik rhetoric.”

Joining in this shame are the UN General Assembly that approved a resolution by consensus without a formal vote on June 30 (press release; text), and the Organization of American States (OAS) that issued a resolution by acclamation on July 5 (press release and text).
Among the supporters of Zelaya are the caudillo of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, the president of the United Nations General Assembly, and the secretary general of the OAS. Who are the latter two?

The General Secretary of the OAS is José Miguel Insulza. He is a Chilean lawyer who obtained an M.A. in political science from the University of Michigan. He was a part of the Marxist Allende government and was exiled from Chile from 1973 to 1988.

The president of the United Nations General Assembly is Miguel d’Escoto Brockmann. From 1979 to 1990 he was the Foreign Minister of the Marxist, Sandinista, Nicaraguan government. His official biography on the United Nations website, presumably one approved by d’Escoto, repeatedly states that he is a Catholic priest. The biography ignores the fact that the Vatican suspended his priestly faculties, and those of two other Sandinista priests, Ernesto and Fernando Cardenal, in the 1980s, more than 20 years ago.

In his Inaugural Address, President Kennedy issued a warning to former colonies who sought to model themselves after the Soviet Union. He warned them to defend their own freedoms and not seek power by riding the back of the Soviet tiger lest they end up inside. Today, his words serve as a warning to President Obama. Instead of supporting the Hondurans who are defending their freedom, he is riding the tigers of international socialists like Zelaya, Chavez, d’Escoto and Insulza. He will end up inside.

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/07/08/honduras-riding-tigers

[Iron Munro]

These arrogant leftist political pigs think they have dominion over the whole world.
Hillary acts like she’s Obama and Hondouras is General Motors.

Really, who the blankety-blank-blank-blank do Obama and Hillary think they are? It’s not their place to decide who will rule Hondouras - it is up to the people of Hondouras.

What happened to Obama’s resolution not to meddle in the affairs of other countries? I guess it went down the crapper along with his no tax promise and his birth certificate.

[don-o]

You put in very good words what most people on this forum believe.

America is hoping to survive Obama. The courageous people of Honduras and Iran inspire us and remind us how precious freedom is.

[wtc911]

Obama took the wrong position and was willing to let the OAS work it out. The problem is that Chavez is pulling the strings and if he were able (through the hard leftist Insulza at OAS) to put Zeyala back in place then Chavez would be the Western Hemisphere's indisputable BSD, not Obama.

iow...if Zeyala were to be restored through anything other than a US brokered effort then Obama loses.

I have to give HRC credit for getting both sides to the table with the only reasonable mediator available, Oscar Reas of Costa Rica. Reas is hated by the Latin-Left as a neo-liberal.

The end result may be the same but at least this way it won't be a trophy for chavez' wall.

[TigersEye]

Skip the State Run Media. Find your own news.

Will Obama blackmail Honduras into installing a bullying would-be dictator? Hans Bader

Wrong Again Oliver North

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Coup in Honduras - Correction: This is NOT a coup

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Supporters of Zelaya.

Supporters of Honduras' President Manuel Zelaya shout slogans outside the presidential residence in Tegucigalpa, Thursday, June 25, 2009. President Zelaya's attempt to hold a referendum Sunday on changing the constitution has pitted him against the country's top courts, the attorney general, military leaders and even his own party, all of whom argue the vote is illegal.(Photo/Fernando Antonio)

Supporters of Honduran rule of law.

Demonstrators opposed to Honduras President Manuel Zelaya, protest in Tegucigalpa, Friday, June 26, 2009. President Manuel Zelaya is promoting a Sunday referendum on constitutional changes that has plunged the country into crisis by setting the president at odds with the military, the courts and the legislature that have branded the vote illegal.

A man holds a constitution of Honduras as demonstrators opposed to Honduras President Manuel Zelaya, protest in Tegucigalpa, Friday, June 26, 2009. President Manuel Zelaya is promoting a Sunday referendum on constitutional changes that has plunged the country into crisis by setting the president at odds with the military, the courts and the legislature that have branded the vote illegal. (Photo/Esteban Felix)

Students wearing gags on their mouths protest against Honduras President Manuel Zelaya outside the Venezuelan embassy in Tegucigalpa, Thursday, June 25, 2009. President Zelaya's attempt to hold a referendum on reforming the constitution has pitted him against the country's top courts, the attorney general, military leaders and even his own party, all of whom argue the vote is illegal. (Photo/Fernando Antonio)

Pro-Honduran government supporters in the small town of Choluteca, Honduras Today, July 1, 2009,

This is a picture from a demonstration in support of Honduran democracy and the government of President Michelleti who has defied the OAS and has said there is no chance that the Chavez stooge, former President Zelaya will return. (Picture courtesy of Gateway Pundit )

0bama was helping Chavez orchestrate this attempted takeover by Zelaya.

• WSJ Update: Obama Worked To Prevent Ouster of (Marxist) Honduras President

• Coups, interference, and the shifting standards of Obama; Update: Coup or ‘military impeachment’?

The U.S. State Dept has basically announced that they are an organ of international communism.

State Department Daily Briefing - July 6, 2009

[TigersEye]

How stupid this new Obama?

We have yet to plumb the depths of that bottomless pit.

[Eagletest]

I love the “Famous Amos’ remark...”LOL”
You and all of the Honduran Patriots are my Heros!!!

[sinanju]

“The new Clinton plan also serves to strengthen the interests of Honduras’ neighbors in the emerging bloc of Panama, Colombia and Mexico, all of which do not want a chaotic Honduras.

The three nations did stress earlier that there should be no foreign interference in Honduran affairs, even as they went with the OAS consensus, and all have moved in this direction. Panama offered mediation. Mexico offered asylum to Zelaya. Colombia stopped a 60-person Venezuelan convoy “battalion” of aid headed to Honduras at its border to ward off Chavista cash and interference.”

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The fact is Honduras next-door neighbors do not want any subversion of the legitimate government. Chavez has Colombia between him and Tegucigalpa and no one else is going to do more than stomp their little feet, beat their little fists on the floor and scream themselves hoarse.

My prediction? This will blow over, because nobody’s going to do more than blow.

[HonCitizen]

Micheletti is taking very smart people with him. Arturo Corrales is a bussiness man, Vilma Morales former pres of the Supreme Court, Roberto Flores Bermudez until yesterday ambassador to the US, Carlos Lopez Contreras former Chancellor.

[cleveland gop]

Great pics my FRiend, especially the last 2 from Tegucigalpa. Pretty obvious where the people of that nation stand.....

Is Obama that stupid??

Braindead moron, and that’s being kind. The problem is, the rest of the developed world warned the drones for months before the election what a complete idiot the community organizer is. Now all they’re doing is sitting back and laughing at us on one hand and hoping that the days of the US being #1 are coming to an end on the other.....

[cripplecreek]

Apparently Thaddeus McCotter is questioning Obama on Zelaya's drug ties.

"We write to seek your explicit personal assurances that U.S. intelligence or law enforcement agencies have no information implicating officials of the Honduran administration of Manuel Zelaya, including Mr. Zelaya himself, in the transit of illegal narcotics through Honduran territory or in any other ties to drug trafficking," McCotter said in his recent letter to the White House.

[Kaslin]

Thanks for posting this

[okie01]

We have balls jaja that funny, we thought Hillary also had..

Ever since he named her Secretary of State, Obama has had Hillary's testicles in his lockbox.

[NorwegianViking]

Praying for all of you every waking moment. Thank you for your post and thank you for supporting what is right! May God Bless you all. Praying for your success. Your new president looks like a very good man!

[HonCitizen]

BTW USA 2-Hon 0 (Gold Cup)

[HonCitizen]

US wants to suspend all its aid to Honduras.