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To: Bushwacker777
This makes me cringe because if we follow the 10th. Amendment then Massachusettes does have a good point.

Actually, no. DOMA does not infringe on MA's ability to define marriage within the state. DOMA simply says that the feds only recognize marriage between a man and a woman as valid for federal purposes (taxes and benefits, etc). I also allows other states the freedom to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states. How does that infringe on MA's rights?

4 posted on 07/08/2009 3:07:41 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: CA Conservative

EXACTLY

seems some do not know what DOMAN is all about but I expect the homo trolls to come back out on here to back MA up

Hey MA let your voters vote on the issue hey before you go about doing this


13 posted on 07/08/2009 3:12:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: CA Conservative

Exactly!

I think this is simply a strategy to discredit DOMA with negative and inaccurate press to undercut public support for it while it wends it’s way through the federal court system.

They hope that by the time in ends up at the USSC that the Obamanation has repacked the court with gay friendly activists who will be happy to twist the law into knots and invalidate it.


15 posted on 07/08/2009 3:13:05 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: CA Conservative; Valpal1

Valpal1 might well have a point with the 10th Amendment.

Also, using the ‘Full Faith and Credit Clause (Article IV, Section 1 of the Constitution, Each State to Honor All Others) ...

How do the Feds ensure all the laws of marriage are honored if they have set a standard. The Feds might have to enforce something they have taken a opposite position to. It wouldn’t set well with them or the State(s) laws that are not being honored in other States.

Plus, would DOMA exclude same sex marriages from receiving federal benefits? That would be against the Dems position on this subject and lifestyle.

It is a tricky question.


37 posted on 07/08/2009 3:54:38 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: CA Conservative
It's all about entitlement spending.

Before the law was passed, Coakley said, the federal government recognized that defining marital status was the "exclusive prerogative of the states." Now, because of the U.S. law's definition of marriage, same-sex couples are denied access to benefits given to heterosexual married couples, including federal income tax credits, employment benefits, retirement benefits, health insurance coverage and Social Security payments, the lawsuit says.

The lawsuit also argues that the federal law requires the state to violate the constitutional rights of its citizens by treating married heterosexual couples and married same-sex couples differently when determining eligibility for Medicaid benefits and when determining whether the spouse of a veteran can be buried in a Massachusetts veterans' cemetery.

43 posted on 07/08/2009 5:02:30 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: CA Conservative

The CITIZENS of MA have never had the opportunity to vote on the matter. Homosexual marriage was forced on us by judicial fiat of the Supreme Judicial Court. When the legislature, which is overwhelmingly Democrat, took the vote that would have given us the opportunity to cast our votes, the new Democrat Governor, Deval Patrick paid off, politically, the five Democrats who were on the fence. When they caved, we were screwed.


49 posted on 07/08/2009 7:31:20 PM PDT by SuziQ
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