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Socialism is Just Feudalism of the New Dark Ages
Self | 7/5/09 | Fred Jake

Posted on 07/05/2009 6:48:53 PM PDT by FredJake


Socialism is just Feudalism of the New Dark Ages

by Fred Jake

As I read an article on the Reformation, I was struck by the way the Muslim in the White House and his socialist buddies in congress are trying to return us back to the feudal days, where everything including the people are owned by the government. As good serfs, we are to just shut up and follow the rules and regulations set in place by today's church (which is the church of environmentalism ie..global warming and other earth worshiping entities), the nobles (Democrat politicians treated like royalty), and the monarch (Obama and any other Democrat President the media loves). Then if the government or the new church needs more money, we have the media playing the part of Johann-Tetzel, as the lapdog for the administration running around demanding we give more or we will all go to environmentalism hell.

In order to get us where they can completely control us they will need a new “Dark Age”. Do you remember the “Dark Ages' from your history class? Well, those centuries were called the “Dark Ages” because it was a time when not much was accomplished. You could say it was as if someone had turned off the lights, because there was no new achievements in science, art, or litterateur. The economy was so bad that men would literally be walking around naked because they were so poor. For protection and sustenance people looked to those who could provide for their basic needs because they could not do it for themselves. Well, we now have a situation in America where our enlightened leaders have all but destroyed the great job producing economy that we had. And as if things were not bad enough, they are ready to pass the cap and trade legislation, begin a value added tax , and they are working overtime to give us a nationalized health care system. Soon we will again be living in the “Dark Ages” that they need to keep us under control.

Once we are there, they will need to continue the fear to keep us in check, and that fear will be what has already worked for them. The fear of rich capitalists and private entrepreneurs. They will continue to use the public education system to promote their religion of earth worship as their John Tetsels in the media help to spread their propaganda. These media yes men will convince the masses that our beloved monarch and his nobles only want what is best for us and that wee need to let them have more of our money to do it. We will be constantly reminded of how the evil capitalists only want to destroy the planet, starve people and force children to work in sweat shops. So to protect us from the horribly mean entrepreneurs they will ensure every business is unionized and that the owner does not make exuberant profits off the backs of the hard working serfs.

Then to make sure all the serfs do not have time to think about their loss of freedom and misery, they will just continue using the same mode of anesthesia the Romans used, amusement to entertainment us. Hollywood, and sports heroes will continue to be allowed their million dollar paydays as long as they keep amusing the public so they won't realize how miserable they really are. As the years pass by, anyone who has not sold their estates to the government through inheritance taxes will be demonized and forced off their lands. In return for helping to control the evil capitalists, the union thugs will be given more control of businesses as the owners will be forced to capitulate at the whim of the feudal lords.

Through all this we will see the usual suspects (liberals zombie voters) defending this unholy trinity of church, state, and media. All the while us, the people, slowly become serfs working for our keep and being told that we should be happy with our lot in life. Question is, are you just going to just sit back and let this happen or are you going to start speaking up in your community and take a stand for democracy before it is too late and we are again living in a feudal system of the new “Dark Ages”?


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; feudalism; feudualism; obama; slavery; socialsim; vanity
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To: Pyro7480

Based on Notre Dame university, the Catholic Church, at least in America, needs another reformation. It is becoming a corrupt leftist organ like many of the mainline Protestant denominations.

Obama is leading us towards serfdom but sadly maybe 20% of the population even knows what it is. Hauek’s book has Road to Serfdom in the title.

The Dark Ages were the period between the Fall of Rome and the emergence of the Holy Roman Empire. The Romans were so far advanced in so many things and much of that knowledge was lost for hundreds of years.


21 posted on 07/05/2009 8:02:17 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: ChessExpert

“We’ve centralized power in the government since the Pharaoh. Kings, communist leaders, fascist dictatorships, are all variations upon a theme.

The really new, radical idea is freedom, to include free markets. The American state, conceived in liberty, is the new idea. Everything else is a throwback.”

Well put. At its roots our system recognizes the sanctity of each and every individual, and their rights to self-determination. In centralized systems only those in or connected to the government hierarchy are ‘individuals’. Everyone else is a drone of the system, existing only to adore and exalt the ‘chosen ones’ in government.


22 posted on 07/05/2009 8:11:37 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Frantzie
Based on Notre Dame university, the Catholic Church, at least in America, needs another reformation.

If it's based on the model of the Counter-Reformation, then I'm all for it! That was the true Reformation! It was the age of saints like St. Teresa of Avila, St. Francis de Sales, and Pope Saint Pius V.

The Dark Ages were the period between the Fall of Rome and the emergence of the Holy Roman Empire.

I agree more with your definition.

23 posted on 07/05/2009 8:14:28 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: LearsFool
And just like many people in the Middle Ages sold themselves into serfdom (to be taken care of by their overlords), many Americans are willing to trade their freedom and independence for comfort and security.

The parallels between Socialism and Manorialism are amazing. One third of everyone's produce and livelihood went the Lord of the manor. There were permissions, fines, and fees for every aspect of day-to-day living.

24 posted on 07/05/2009 8:30:46 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Pyro7480

I must admit that OV’s article uses the renaissance years when writing about the many things that led to the reformation. It was I who used the Dark Ages and maybe I should have used the Middles ages for my comparison to the feudal years.

He only has two of his 5 parts published so far and so we will have to wait for at least three weeks to see his full conclusion.

Unless of course someone can convince him to post his whole thesis on FreeRepublic for us to pick apart. I know he has an agreement with Post Scripts to post his articles, but usually he posts at least a link here but he hasn’t yet. Maybe it is because the topic is so far off what usually drives traffic.

But like I said if we get enough freepers to ping him about it he may give us a clue as to his whole thought process.


25 posted on 07/05/2009 8:37:41 PM PDT by FredJake
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To: Frantzie
The Dark Ages were the period between the Fall of Rome and the emergence of the Holy Roman Empire. The Romans were so far advanced in so many things and much of that knowledge was lost for hundreds of years.

I'm not sure how true this is but I keep hearing that the Romans made a form of concrete so strong and durable, we still cannot duplicate it today with our technology.
26 posted on 07/05/2009 8:47:16 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Woodrow Wilson should have been waterboarded.)
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To: Nowhere Man

The Romans big concrete invention that I am aware of was waterproof concrete. The secret in the mix was supposedly volcanic ash. They could build piers and make it work underwater!

The incredible stuff about the aquaducts is they had to build them on a constant downslope from the mountains to bring water to the cities - around the freaking world they did this! I have no idea how they were able to calculate a constant decreasing elevation. Truly amazing. With the fall of Rome - this knowledge was lost for hundreds of years (Dark Ages).

http://www.franklin.ma.us/auto/schools/horace/grade6/corey/ss1/classnotes.htm

waterproof concrete
allowed Romans to build in and under water – piers, bridges – concrete allow Rome to build “Rome like” cities throughout empire –
“new Rome” had lots of jobs, higher standard of living; mixture water, lime and the new secret ingredient pozzolana ash from volcanoes
bonus concrete info from https://sites.google.com/a/brvgs.k12.va.us/roman-technology/concrete-ralph–;
At first, this cement was used as mortar to bind together bricks in foundations and city blocks. In time, the entire empire was stitched together with concrete infrastructure that supported its lifestyle - roads, aqueducts, dams, and many other practical structures. The Romans had a very organized system of construction based around the speed and efficiency that was made possible by using concrete instead of masonry as the Greeks did. Engineers standardized their methods of working with concrete to perfect them over time, and detailed planning work went into every project to ensure a high level of craftsmanship. The simpler method of pouring concrete into a wooden framework also decreased the need for skilled labor, making it economical and easier to implement across the vastness of the empire in comparison to the more laborious masonry construction.


27 posted on 07/05/2009 9:05:12 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: FredJake
Not the best analogy. Magna Carta.
Lord Acton: The History of Freedom in Christianity.
28 posted on 07/05/2009 9:42:06 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I started reading it and realized that I was reading a book. I do not have time for such a long diatribe on history. Why not get a readers digest version and send it to me. I do want to ask though, are you a Catholic, Protestant, or an unbeliever?


29 posted on 07/05/2009 9:55:32 PM PDT by FredJake
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To: FredJake

OK. What dates and school of historiography are you following for this “Dark Ages” periodization and generalization? I would think Magna Carta figures in there.


30 posted on 07/05/2009 10:00:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Earthdweller
“Progressives” are really selling old regressive ideas...truly “The Road to Serfdom”
31 posted on 07/05/2009 10:01:18 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Ok, Ill again say I probably should have said more like the middle ages and that would make it closer to, I'd say mid 1200's to early 1400s. The time leading up to the reformation, of course things had started to change quite a bit so that is why I go with the time line I do.

Have you read OneVike articles on the reformation he has been writing? As I said when I posted my piece I got the idea from reading his articles. He is writing a 5 part series and has the first two completed.

"How the Renaissance Led to the Reformation" part I

"How the Renaissance Led to the Reformation" part II

His first one gives an idea of what he still has to publish and I guess he is doing them once a week.
32 posted on 07/05/2009 10:18:08 PM PDT by FredJake
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To: FredJake

While I don’t disagree with the direction you are talking about - communism is communism, after all- historically that just isn’t accurate other than in a very romanticized and superficial way. Im not saying another Dark Ages couldn’t come - when people turned against civilization and societies reduced to the point that bathing was considered sinful, for instance, or when whole libraries were burnt because if the books content wasn’t in the bible, it was false, and if was, then it was redundant.

That being said, I do agree that crisis is the best way to remove freedoms from people - for instance, internment of japanese in concentration camps could not have happened without world war II, or the persecutions of Jews in Germany would not have happened if it had not been for the economic devastation of Germany after WWI. That is why the founding fathers stressed that a republic was ours, if we were strong enough to keep it - or that those of us who would trade freedom for security deserved neither.

History does repeat in that sense continually - the generations that fought their way up from poverty begat children that don’t know and understand the struggle. Each generation becomes more removed from hardship, and more likely to willingly give up freedoms to those who promise them protection and security. Meanwhile, those who never succeeded in the climb are susceptible to those who promise them a slice of the pie without the accompanying hard work.

If you want a historical analog - think 1930s - FDR rode the great depression to enable him to enact a socialist agenda that still isn’t completed undone.


33 posted on 07/05/2009 11:49:39 PM PDT by rudman
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To: rudman

It’s true.

And socialism leads to the formation of the pagan new order. Neo-feudalism.


34 posted on 07/06/2009 2:41:24 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Noumenon

Ever see the History Channel’s program on the Dark Ages? It really shows the Brutality of 450-900’s Europe.


35 posted on 07/06/2009 9:16:13 AM PDT by John Will
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