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To: FredJake

While I don’t disagree with the direction you are talking about - communism is communism, after all- historically that just isn’t accurate other than in a very romanticized and superficial way. Im not saying another Dark Ages couldn’t come - when people turned against civilization and societies reduced to the point that bathing was considered sinful, for instance, or when whole libraries were burnt because if the books content wasn’t in the bible, it was false, and if was, then it was redundant.

That being said, I do agree that crisis is the best way to remove freedoms from people - for instance, internment of japanese in concentration camps could not have happened without world war II, or the persecutions of Jews in Germany would not have happened if it had not been for the economic devastation of Germany after WWI. That is why the founding fathers stressed that a republic was ours, if we were strong enough to keep it - or that those of us who would trade freedom for security deserved neither.

History does repeat in that sense continually - the generations that fought their way up from poverty begat children that don’t know and understand the struggle. Each generation becomes more removed from hardship, and more likely to willingly give up freedoms to those who promise them protection and security. Meanwhile, those who never succeeded in the climb are susceptible to those who promise them a slice of the pie without the accompanying hard work.

If you want a historical analog - think 1930s - FDR rode the great depression to enable him to enact a socialist agenda that still isn’t completed undone.


33 posted on 07/05/2009 11:49:39 PM PDT by rudman
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To: rudman

It’s true.

And socialism leads to the formation of the pagan new order. Neo-feudalism.


34 posted on 07/06/2009 2:41:24 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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