Romney - He is as corrupt as the worst Democrats.
Posted on 07/04/2009 5:09:47 AM PDT by yongin
Many FReepers are skeptical of Romney's conservative credentials. They don't like his past positions on abortion, healthcare, and gay marriage. They feel his rightward shift on social issues to be less than sincere.
Many conservatives are angered by the Left's attempts to character assassinate Palin thru silly ethics complaints. They have made Palin's administration and family into side shows. The ethics complaints have driven her to be $500,000 in debt.
This situation might provide an opening for Romney to gain Palin's support. Romney could step in to pay off Palin's legal debt. He then could make a speech about how conservatives must unite against the Far Left with Palin giving her endorsement. If Romney does this action, would it make him acceptable to Freepers?
Can the Romney-bots just give it up?
He ain’t even human, much less conservative.
The hair proves it!!
Would you quit a good paying gig sitting around in front of a computer in an air conditioned room posting BS on a forum to go back to serving lattes at Starbucks?
There’s no difference between the smell of a sewage treatment plant and Romney!
“Try explaining how Romneycare fits conservative ideals.”
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Real simple. It doesn’t. A really poor attempt at tackling a complex problem. But an attempt none-the-less. He really would have been better off doing nothing, like every other conservative governor.
The same goes for Bush. He made some awful decisions. Does that mean I forever write him off as a no-good RHINO? I was tempted. But in the end realize that none of these politicians are perfect. Every one of them compromises their values on some level. Even Sarah will at some point.
Maybe another candidate, a better candidate, will step forward before 2012. If so, I’ll vote for him (or her). I would have gladly voted for Fred Thompson in 08. Never had the chance.
I just think its too soon for Sarah Palin. She needs more time to prove herself to the country. She eventually will. But in the meantime, I belive that Romney is probably the best we’re going to get. And I think he’d make a good President, especially on the heels of the Obamination we’re currently enduring.
Others disagree. That’s fine.
You are right in one regard, he would have been much better off in doing nothing. So would Massachusetts.
However he did do it, and is still proud of it DESPITE being a dismal failure.
So what does that tell us, and should tell you?
“However he did do it, and is still proud of it DESPITE being a dismal failure.
So what does that tell us, and should tell you?”
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I don’t know if he is proud of it. Maybe he is. I read the following on the CATO Institute website, from Jan 2008:
“Today, however, Romney seldom mentions his plan on the campaign trail. If pressed he maintains that he is “proud” of what he accomplished, while criticizing how the Democratic administration that succeeded him has implemented the program. Nevertheless, he now focuses on changing federal tax law in order to empower individuals to buy health insurance outside their employer, and on incentives for states to deregulate their insurance industry. He would also use block grants for both Medicaid and federal uncompensated care funds to encourage greater state innovation. He encourages states to experiment, but does not offer his own state as a model.”
Mitt’s been tagged a “flip-flopper.” There’s some truth to that. But I am a small business owner. Business owners are pragmatists. You try something to see if it works. If it does, great. If not...well, it could sink the business.
My take on Romney is that he has core conservative values but is also a pragmatic entrepreneur at heart. Sometimes the latter will cause him to lose sight of the former. He’s not the first though. At least with him we have some prospect for creative innovation and forward thinking. Rare commodities on our side of the isle these days.
Of course he failed, and of course, you Mitt, ignore that.
"Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans,
has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced,
instead tapping registered Democrats or independents -- including two gay lawyers who
have supported expanded same-sex rights, a Globe review of the nominations has found.
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats
or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians
or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show.
In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters,
and 14 registered Democrats."
- Boston Globe 7/25/2005
Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge
Romney told the U.S. Senate on June 22, 2004, that the "real threat to the States is not the
constitutional amendment process, in which the states participate,
but activist judges who disregard the law and redefine marriage . . ."
Romney sounds tough but yet he had no qualms advancing the legal career of one
of the leading anti-marriage attorneys. He nominated Stephen Abany to a District Court.
Abany has been a key player in the Massachusetts Lesbian and Gay Bar Association which,
in its own words, is "dedicated to ensuring that the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court decision
on marriage equality is upheld, and that any anti-gay amendment or legislation is defeated."
- U.S. Senate testimony by Gov. Mitt Romney, 6/22/2004 P>
"Romney announces he won't fill judicial vacancies before term ends
Despite his rhetoric about judicial activism, Romney announced that
he won't fill all the remaining vacancies during his term - but instead
leave them for his liberal Democrat successor!
Governor Mitt Romney pledged yesterday not to make a flurry of lame-duck
judicial appointments in the final days of his administration . . . David Yas,
editor of Lawyers Weekly, said Romney is "bucking tradition" by resisting the urge to
fill all remaining judgeships. "It is a tradition for governors to use that power to appoint judges
aggressively in the waning moments of their administration," Yas said.
He added that Romney has been criticized for failing to make judicial appointments.
"The legal community has consistently criticized him for not filling open seats quickly enough
and being a little too painstaking in the process and being dismissive of the input of the
Judicial Nominating Commission," Yas said.
- Boston Globe 11/2/2006
“The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday.
The cause of death: failed leadership.
The party is survived by a few leftover legislators
and a handful of county officials and grassroots activists
who have been ignored for years.
Services will be public and a mass exodus of taxpayers will follow.
In lieu of flowers, send messages to Republican voters
warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney.”
- Boston Herald, 11/12/2006
"In 2006, while Romney was chairman of the National Republican
Governors Association - a group dedicated to electing more
Republican governors - his own hand-picked Republican successor
as governor lost badly to the Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans
have held the governorship in Massachusetts since 1990. Romney largely
ignored the Massachusetts elections and spent most of the time
during the campaign out of state building his presidential campaign.
He came back and publicly campaigned for the Republican candidate
the day before the general election!
“Locally, this is a rebuke to Mitt Romney and checking out within six months
after being elected and having accomplished almost nothing,”
[Jim] Rappaport [former chairman of the state Republican Party]."
- Boston Globe, 11/8/2006
isle = aisle (oops)
Mr. Romney "Disses" Amateur Radio In Televised Town Meeting
- Romney was a piss-poor Governor. Romney got a "C" rating from CATO. And that was BEFORE
Romney's Socialized medicine and coverup of the BIGdig kicked in. So the RomneyBOTs try to "spin history".
Note also that Romney also betrayed President Bush as Governor
(predicting what TeamROMNEY would do later in Election2008 to Gov. Palin, and then the GOP - i.e. Spoiler Romney-backstabbing),
because Romney was also against the conservative tax cuts. Here are the facts from CATO.
"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."
[Cato Institute annual Fiscal Policy Report Card - America's Governors, 2004.]
Romney - He is as corrupt as the worst Democrats.
Diogenisis, AKA “the thread killer”, strikes again.
Thanks for all the helpful info. Got any pie charts?
I owned a business too and pragmatism has always worked for me, but there are certain core concepts that are absolute that should determine ones decisions or at least play a role in the process. Doing something that should strike you as wrong just to “try” it out is at the very least a bad idea, and in most cases a sign of incompetence.
I have made this point before. I read the original concept of Mitt's plan at Heritage before it even got into play in the real world, and like many others knew that while it had good salient points it also betrayed very basic fundamental principles in regards to Government's role. Many also knew it would never arrive in the real world looking anything like what it did in the lab, compounding the problems.
Mitt did it anyways.
So is he profoundly incompetent or is he fully aware and simply willing to toss out what should be core principles?
Certainly a man as savvy as Romney should have known that the left would corrupt the already problematic plan into something ghastly. If he did know this he is an accomplice to the entire farce, if he did not, his political acumen is questionable to say the least.
There are far more issues that can be raised by Romenycare then simply it being a slightly better from of Socialized Medicine.
Nope.
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Yep. He should have known what the libs would turn it into. I’m not excusing that. If nothing else its a good lesson for what will happen on the national level.
Just curious. What do you think of Bush? (Amnesty, Wallstreet and auto bailouts)
If the nation had been handed over to conservatives it would have worked (we actually saw some recovery before Obama pushed things) and we would have been paid back in spades.
Sadly Bush lead to Obama, and instead of being about the best possible plan to counter socialist abuse, it became a socialist excuse.
On Amnesty, Bush was a totally let down, but who hasn't been, that tiger is never going to get caged in the current environment.
That’s about my take on it. I still admire Bush for what he did that was right. Mostly for his response to 9-11 and willingness to sacrifice his popularity in order to keep us safe.
I think Mitt has alot of potential too. I’d say he’s smarter than Bush though and, if given the chance, will learn from past mistakes. We’ll see.
Thanks for the actual discussion. Few seem to be able to discuss anymore. Really makes this site boring. Later.
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