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Romney vs Mitch Daniels in 2012? (Vanity Discussion)
Me | 07/03/09 | Me

Posted on 07/03/2009 2:12:24 PM PDT by GOPGuide

Sanford has committed sepuku on live TV.

Ensign has discovered what goes on in Vegas does not always stay in Vegas.

Palin is retiring from politics.

Haley Barbour is a former lobbyist who runs the poorest state in the Union.

Huckabee is a 5th stringer.

John Thune is running for Vice President and we have no idea whether General Petraeus is a conservative or not.

It looks like the only guy who can stop the Mitt Machine is Daniels.

If you don't like Daniels, then Romney is the nominee by default in 2012.


TOPICS: US: Indiana; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; daniels; daniels2012; homosexualagenda; makeshitup; mitchdaniels; mittromney; mythromney; rino; romney; romney2012; romneycare
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To: rrrod

Jim Jones ran a communist group of democrat voters, I don’t understand the connection with conservative Christians, the most conservative group in the conservative movement.


81 posted on 07/03/2009 3:28:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: MSF BU

I agree that Romney and Daniels aren’t the answer. As to your other point, there are other arenas than the military. I have fibromyalgia, lyme disease, scoliosis and am severely near-sighted. The military isn’t an option for me. I’m studying to fight the battle in the classroom as a political science professor. If in the future I can get one student to reconsider the things they have been brainwashed about pertaining to government, then I will have made a small contribution to the cause of liberty. By the way, who do you support, since most of the options have no military background.


82 posted on 07/03/2009 3:32:07 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: MadIsh32; ansel12; Jeff Head; narses
It depends on how you define conservative.

I don’t believe legislating morality is conservative

Cutting taxes, cutting spending, working to limit the power of the Federal Reserve is.

Being for strong national security is.

Caring who people marry or what they do with their personal life is NOT conservative.

What you are describing is libertarianism NOT conservatism and many libertarians are nothing more than liberals who like guns and hate taxes.

You say you are for liberty, but what about the liberty of the 50 MILLION Americans who have been murdered by those who oppose "legislating morality"?

And as far as marriage, do you even know how the Founding Fathers felt about homosexuality?

The Founders on Homosexuality

83 posted on 07/03/2009 3:46:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.” Ronald Reagan


84 posted on 07/03/2009 4:14:01 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: conservativebuckeye
Perhaps you should read the FULL quote and not the portion that libertarians love to quote (added emphasis is mine):

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is. Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path.

85 posted on 07/03/2009 4:20:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: nathanbedford

Again, I am a big Gary fan.

I just don’t think the FR, social conservative first crowd will like him.

There hasn’t been enough on his views on national security to make any judgement on that


86 posted on 07/03/2009 4:23:20 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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If Virginians can get Bob McDonnell elected in November, he has an awesome resume for national office. A small snippet from his website:

Bob McDonnell was one year old in 1955 when his father, USAF Lt. Colonel John McDonnell, moved the family to Fairfax County. At age 5 John was assigned to Germany, but the time away from Fairfax would be short. At age 8 Bob and his family were back in Fairfax, this time calling a house on Wagon Wheel Road in the Mount Vernon area home. They would remain there for Bob’s childhood. Bob’s dad retired from the Air Force in 1964 and went on to a second career with the Naval Investigative Service. He still lives in the same house today. Bob’s mom worked for a Democratic Congressman from Texas, Rep. Olin Teague, and later at George Washington’s Mount Vernon. She passed away in 1994.

Bob went to St. Louis Catholic School for third through fifth grades, Woodley Hills Elementary School for 6th grade, and Walt Whitman Junior High School for grades 7 and 8. For high school Bob went to Bishop Ireton in Alexandria. It was while attending Bishop Ireton that Bob has his first, and only, brush with gridiron greatness, scoring a touchdown and a two-point conversion against the famed 1971 T.C. Williams Titans of “Remember the Titans” fame. You can read the Alexandria Gazette article about the game by clicking here.

After high school Bob was off to South Bend, Indiana to live his dream of attending the University of Notre Dame. He could only afford college through a full Army ROTC scholarship. For Bob McDonnell a higher education came with a commitment to serve his country. Like his father before him, Bob would wear the uniform as a military officer. Bob graduated in 1976 with a BBA degree in management.

Click for lots more: http://www.bobmcdonnell.com/


87 posted on 07/03/2009 4:26:15 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: nathanbedford

Sorry, but no white male is going to beat O in 2012.Gingrich especially needs to stay away-O would destroy him.


88 posted on 07/03/2009 4:28:44 PM PDT by Domari Nolo
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To: wagglebee; conservativebuckeye

These guys cling to that little out of context piece of a 1975 interview by libertarians of Reagan, like it is the only thing to cling to.

It is, the rest of the quote and the interview moves Reagan away from the libertarians that were interviewing him that day in 1975.


89 posted on 07/03/2009 4:29:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: HokieMom

I think (and I may be wrong, but I have a lot of friends and relatives who know Bob McDonnell very well), that Bob McDonnell plans to be governor and then possibly run against Mark Warner in 2014.


90 posted on 07/03/2009 4:44:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ansel12

Reagan’s RECORD of social conservatism should be more than enough to make the libertarians realize that he was NEVER one of them.


91 posted on 07/03/2009 4:46:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: All

Palin.


92 posted on 07/03/2009 4:46:53 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: ansel12

Yes, sort of a joke but not entirely. Wavy Gravy’s real name is Hugh Romney and though he hides it I believe he is a distant cousin to Mitt. You might recall that he was the emcee at Woodstock. He is still ticking, among other things running Camp Winnarainbow, which trains kids in “circus arts.” There used to be a Ben & Jerry’s flavor named for him, but it was dropped after Unilever acquired the ice cream brand.


93 posted on 07/03/2009 5:04:21 PM PDT by drubyfive
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To: wagglebee

LOL, You must mean the parts of the interview that the interviewer didn’t like and would draw Reagan away from to get back to money and tax issues.


94 posted on 07/03/2009 5:05:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: drubyfive

What I meant is that he isn’t in Romney’s family or one of his ancestors, if you trace Romney’s children all the way back in a direct line you don’t find any Romney men that served our nation in uniform. I know that there are people with the name Romney that have served, just not Mitt’s Romneys


95 posted on 07/03/2009 5:09:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Or perhaps what he said in his incredible 1975 speech, "Let Them Go Their Way", or what he did in his eight years as president including his masterpiece essay, "Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation".
96 posted on 07/03/2009 5:12:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GOPGuide

RomneyCare. ‘Nuf said. No vote here.


97 posted on 07/03/2009 5:49:09 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: ansel12

Hard to be sure with all the polygamy in the family. In his direct line, I guess you are right. I see that his father George headed the Automotive Council for War Production during WW2, so he made a contribution. The brother of his great grandfather Miles Pratt Romney, also named George Romney, appears to have been in the Mormon militia, the Nauvoo Legion, which fought against the U.S. Army in the 1858 Utah War.

BTW, I’m no Romney-bot, just a history buff.


98 posted on 07/03/2009 5:50:44 PM PDT by drubyfive
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To: GOPGuide

If that’s the best we’ve got, I’m sitting out!

SERIOUSLY the Republicans will officialy be DOA when all we have left are RINOs!!..


99 posted on 07/03/2009 5:55:58 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: ansel12

You hit the Nail on the head, ansell2, I’m Hoosier and I’d prefer Mike Pence if we are to pick and Indianan ;).


100 posted on 07/03/2009 5:59:40 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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