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To: drubyfive

What I meant is that he isn’t in Romney’s family or one of his ancestors, if you trace Romney’s children all the way back in a direct line you don’t find any Romney men that served our nation in uniform. I know that there are people with the name Romney that have served, just not Mitt’s Romneys


95 posted on 07/03/2009 5:09:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Hard to be sure with all the polygamy in the family. In his direct line, I guess you are right. I see that his father George headed the Automotive Council for War Production during WW2, so he made a contribution. The brother of his great grandfather Miles Pratt Romney, also named George Romney, appears to have been in the Mormon militia, the Nauvoo Legion, which fought against the U.S. Army in the 1858 Utah War.

BTW, I’m no Romney-bot, just a history buff.


98 posted on 07/03/2009 5:50:44 PM PDT by drubyfive
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To: ansel12; drubyfive; greyfoxx39; All
...if you trace Romney’s children all the way back in a direct line you don’t find any Romney men that served our nation in uniform. I know that there are people with the name Romney that have served, just not Mitt’s Romneys [ansel12]

Hard to be sure with all the polygamy in the family. In his direct line, I guess you are right. I see that his father George headed the Automotive Council for War Production during WW2, so he made a contribution. The brother of his great grandfather Miles Pratt Romney, also named George Romney, appears to have been in the Mormon militia, the Nauvoo Legion, which fought against the U.S. Army in the 1858 Utah War. BTW, I’m no Romney-bot, just a history buff. [Drubyfive]

The Mormon Times ran an article yesterday surrounding a conference on Mitt Romney's direct ancestor, Parley P. Pratt. The title of the article? Parley P. Pratt and America's Patriotic Betrayal [The Mormons framed the article as if America betrayed Pratt -- not the other way around...how "patriotic" of them! In 1839, Pratt was in jail for attempted murder; in 1856, he added a 12th wife to his harem -- marrying a woman, Eleanor McLean, who was already--and still--married to another man]

Excerpt from that article: The next Independence Day [1839] found Pratt in jail for attempted murder for his role in defending the church at a battle with the mob...Pratt's confidence was waning in the United States. He recognized its role in being the cradle of the Restoration, but saw its future as bleak. In a fictional dream of the future, Pratt wrote of the republic's ultimate downfall. "The spirit of freedom withdrew from the mass. Divisions and contentions arose and thus ended the confederation under the title of E Pluribus Unum." The martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum Smith seemed to be the last straw. In 1844 and 1845, Pratt was in the eastern United States. He received a letter from Lyman Littlefield written from Nauvoo on the Fourth of July. "...American liberty expired with the prophets at their martyrdom in Carthage jail." Pratt longed to leave New York and return to Nauvoo or to a mission to the American Indians. He was "now done with this city and nearly so with the nation." The work of God and the progress of the United States were no longer one and the same, Tobler said. There was to be a bright future, but it didn't include America...Brigham Young agreed with a request from the United States to raise the Mormon Battalion. "On July 9, 1846, Parley Pratt, his disillusionment concealed, transcended or forgotten, communicated Young's endorsement of the call to arms to the reluctant Saints," Tobler said...The act of raising the battalion re-attached the LDS Church to the American Republic, Tobler said...

(Yeah, that's what we need...church-based battle battalions...I'm sure Romney can resurrect that on behalf of his ancestor...)

139 posted on 07/04/2009 2:30:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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