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The GOP's Real Problems for 2012
American ^ | June 30, 2009 | Michael Barone

Posted on 07/01/2009 8:41:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters

The conventional wisdom, as recorded in the New York Times, is that the Republican party is in terrible trouble because of the confessions in the past two weeks of adultery by two possible presidential candidates, Nevada Senator John Ensign and South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford. I think this is overwrought, for reasons set forth in my Washington Examiner blog post. The Democratic party is surviving the confessions of adultery by 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards and former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, and the Republican party will survive the confessions of Ensign, who never seemed likely to be a serious presidential candidate, and Sanford, who seemed to have the potential to be an attractive candidate but whose quirkiness and eccentricity made him seem unlikely ever to be a successful one.

Nonetheless I still think Republicans are going to have a hard time coming up with a strong presidential nominee in 2012, as I reflect on their difficulty in doing so in 2008. For as I look back on that Republican nominating contest, it seems to me that none of the Republican candidates had a good strategy for winning the nomination. And if a candidate does not win the nomination, it does not really matter how strong he (or she) would be in the general election. Let’s look at each of the candidates.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; barone; gop; gopcomeback
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1 posted on 07/01/2009 8:42:00 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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Nonetheless I still think Republicans are going to have a hard time coming up with a strong presidential nominee in 2012...


2 posted on 07/01/2009 8:43:16 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: RobinMasters

The real problem?

They`re F****D !

Why vote for the liberal-lite when one can vote for the real thing.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 8:43:21 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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The end of the world as we know it?


4 posted on 07/01/2009 8:44:35 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: RobinMasters

The GOP is leaderless. Period!


5 posted on 07/01/2009 8:45:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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6 posted on 07/01/2009 8:46:03 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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2012 will not be about the republican presidential nominee; it will be about the House and Senate. Against THE ONE, any candidate will be cannon fodder. It'll be like being Mondale against Reagan in 1984, and Reagan was popular while dealing with a hostile press.

THE ONE is a presidential phenom like no other. Because he is black, one can scarcely criticize him without being called a racist. The press worships him, and his shortcomings will never be revealed.

7 posted on 07/01/2009 8:49:43 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

SARAH!


8 posted on 07/01/2009 8:53:04 AM PDT by onedoug (SARAH!)
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To: RobinMasters
"Implication for 2012 candidates (especially Romney): Run as yourself."

And just who might that be?


9 posted on 07/01/2009 8:53:45 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: RobinMasters

Didn’t you hear? Michael Jackson died...


10 posted on 07/01/2009 8:54:37 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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The New York Times hates us. They love the dems so much they'll cover for a Duke University official who sells black children for rape parties. The New York Times yawns. They want to catch a Republican jaywalking...

And no, the MSM didn't expose Edwards ( a full fledged former member of the 'teacher's pets" club - sponsored by the MSM) The press didn't notice the Edwards stroy UNTIL a picture was published in the sub-press of him holding his love child. It's NOT the same.

11 posted on 07/01/2009 8:54:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Duke University official offers to SELL a black five year old for rape parties & the MSM looks away?)
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“Because he is black, one can scarcely criticize him without being called a racist.”

Then we are all cowards, and America will fail under this Marxist power hungry dictator.


12 posted on 07/01/2009 8:56:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: RobinMasters

Perspective people. If you would have taken a poll of who to elect for President in 1992 right after the Gulf War in March 1991, the Democrats would have looked leaderless and George Bush Sr. would have coasted to a victory. That only took the span of 1 1/2 years. We still have 3 1/2 years to go before the 2012 election. It’s not even worth our effort to be considering who will run in 2012 to beat Obama. Concentrate on the 2010 congressional elections.


13 posted on 07/01/2009 8:58:13 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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I hope this is sarcasm because this guy's shelf life expires around December of this year.

The economy is bad, bad, bad, and it isn't getting any better. Even with the the help of the media, it only lasts so long. Change is what people wanted and now they are starting to realize how change can be bad as often as it can be good.

By December around 5 million people will be unemployed but not receiving benefits. Actual unemployment will be at 12% or greater with real UE being between 17-20%. Your home will be worth around 40% - 60% of what it was at it's highest value and people will be more nervous than ever.

It has been over 75 years since the economy has been this bad. The amazing thing will be if the resident of 1600 is able to complete his first term.

14 posted on 07/01/2009 8:59:14 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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Wrong STRATEGY? Good grief.

Could it be possible that Giuliani lost because he ran as a pro-abort and pro-gay, and not because he messed up in New Hampshire?

Could it be possible that Romney lost, not because he pretended to be a social conservative, but because his pro-abortion record and his constant flipflopping became overwhelmingly evident?

Sounds like another RINO lover here, still working from the ancient Country Clubber Playbook.


15 posted on 07/01/2009 8:59:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RobinMasters
A lot of the points in this article are silly.

Go back to the first six months of 1997 -- when Bill Clinton was starting his second term in office after the GOP had put up one of the worst presidential candidates in modern history who wasn't named "Mondale" or "Dukakis." I don't remember any media coverage about prospective Republican presidential candidates for 2000 that included George W. Bush among them. And yet he pretty much came out of nowhere to win the 2000 election.

There's really only one issue when it comes to presidential candidates from either party: How much money can they raise? If the GOP can run a candidate with a lot of powerful financial clout, then it will present a strong challenge in 2012. It's really that simple.

It takes leadership to raise money in the Republican Party. Republicans tend to be financially astute people with some business savvy . . . which means they aren't likely to throw their money behind a loser.

16 posted on 07/01/2009 9:00:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great . . . beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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The real problem is that we have nothing short of a criminal enterprise in the White House, which will also be controlling the “results” of the census and elections; a Congress full of socialists and jellyfish; a judiciary intent on rewriting our laws to be “empathetic” to perverts; and a media which will use its substantial power to spin and lie for all of them. Oh, and of course, a population full of 3rd worlders and mush-for-brains that care not a whit about any of it, as long as the nifty new digital cable holds out.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 9:02:15 AM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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The GOP doesn't stand or fall on a couple of indivual members having personal character issues. The GOP stands or falls on the following:
18 posted on 07/01/2009 9:02:20 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Sans-Culotte

I think you underestimate what the sky rocketing unemployment rate can do to Obami’s approval rating.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 9:03:38 AM PDT by frogjerk (C-NJ)
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I think you underestimate what the sky rocketing unemployment rate can do to Obami’s approval rating.

Bush's fault®

20 posted on 07/01/2009 9:07:24 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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