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Latest on the Obama Birth Certificate eBay Auction is Scratched
eBay messages | 6/30 | self

Posted on 06/30/2009 9:05:15 PM PDT by woofie

This is the latest messaging I have had with the seller on eBay

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Dear colmado_naranja,

I see the auction has been pulled (again), also I got a bunch of warnings that you might be trying to get my account info etc.

I sure hope you are legit or at least not trying to cause harm

If you can tell me anything about what is going on I'd appreciate it

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Dear ____

Hi. Don't worry, I'm not a scammer. You can check with other eBayers that have made posts all over the internet in support of me and that eBay is now to the point that they will say anything to cancel my auctions.

There will be no more auctions for Obama?s b.c., but this may interest you. Ebay item # 160345795373. ?Autographed photo of Smith and Andylenny abroad.?

Again you?ll have to search by listing number for the first several hours until the title becomes searchable.

I'm turning the b.c. over to WorldNetDaily and Joseph Farah. Thanks for your support. You are appreciated.

- colmado_naranja

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I had recieved this from eBay earlier:

Hello ______________

Our records show that you recently received an email from colmado_naranja through the Ask Seller a Question or Contact eBay Member features. This email may be fraudulent and an attempt to do one of the following:

- Obtain your eBay password - Gain access to your eBay account - Use your eBay account for fraudulent activity - Set up an outside-of-eBay transaction which may be fraudulent

This kind of email is often called a "phish" or "phishing attempt," and the people who send them are known as "phishers." Phishers use these methods to try to get your personal information, such as user names, passwords and credit card details. Because the emails may sometimes come through the eBay system, the phisher may seem to be trustworthy and have a good reason to contact you.

***Important - Protect Your Personal Information*** - Don't reply to the sender either through the eBay system or your personal email account.

- Don't open any links or cut and paste any Web addresses into your browser from the phishing email.

- If you think you may have entered personal information such as your password, Social Security Number, or credit card information into a website based on a request from a phishing email, you need to act *immediately* to protect yourself from identity theft. For detailed instructions about the steps to take, please go to:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/account/protecting-identity-theft.html

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Click the "Item Bought Outside of eBay form" or the "Item Sold Outside of eBay form" link. Enter your information in the page that follows, and then click the "Submit" button. The information you provide will enable us to work more effectively with law enforcement in case an investigation occurs.

3. If you were the seller and shipped the item to a fraudulent buyer, contact the shipping carrier that you used. That company may be able to assist you further. If you sent the item through the U.S. Postal Service, file a mail fraud claim. To do so, please visit:

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4. Contact the local law enforcement where you sent the payment or item. The authorities where the seller or the buyer lives might be able to provide additional assistance. To find local law enforcement, go to:

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***Additional Account Safety Tips*** To protect your email and your eBay account, we recommend that you always follow these safety tips:

- Do *not* respond to the sender either through the eBay system or your email account. An offer to buy or sell an item outside of eBay is against eBay policies, might be fraudulent, and will not be covered by eBay protection programs.

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http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html

Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety team


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; citizenship; colb; ebay; eligibility; hawaii; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

It is confusing but I think the seller means Lucas (the kid?) and Lenny (his father?) and Smith (the writer) and

Dawnella (the lady)


361 posted on 07/01/2009 8:54:35 PM PDT by woofie
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Lenny = Andy Lenny

Again Im guessing based on the info we are given ..... but Dawnella financed the venture (stayed home ?) and Smith went to Kenya and met with Andy Lenny (and Lucas)

Thats all I can come up with


362 posted on 07/01/2009 9:00:00 PM PDT by woofie
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2283836/posts

WND info above

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BTW I have asked the seller when the video goes up and when

the info goes to WND

will post if I get a reply


363 posted on 07/01/2009 9:39:56 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie; Frantzie

You said — There is way too much cynicism in my opinion ...The person on eBay has been absolutely straight forward with me ...I also confirmed some info via another freeper ...totally independent of anything the seller said

The document should have been in WorldNetDaily’s hands by now... this thing is beginning to look worse by the hour, the longer it is that WorldNetDaily has received nothing from this seller...

Heck! Ole “chief editor Korir” kept everyone going for *months* about the Michelle Obama tape that he had, so I guess this seller is going to try to match Korir’s record?


364 posted on 07/02/2009 1:48:31 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: woofie; Frantzie

You said — I dont see what the seller gets outta this if its not real but a BIG headache...They have already had a headache

Well, let me tell you what ole “chief editor Korir” over at API (African Press International) got out of it. He was able to say that he showed all of those people that believed him, that they were shown to be idiots for believing him. He called that something like the Dark Socratic Methodology, to let idiots become so engrossed in their false ideas that they believe idiotic stuff...

So, perhaps this seller is going to get “that” out of it...


365 posted on 07/02/2009 1:51:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: woofie

You said — There is way too much cynicism in my opinion ...

Well..., considering that the eBay seller has an auction going right now for a picture (or pictures?) of himself and a couple of other people (again ??)...

and, that the bid is currently at US $2,044.00 ...

I would say that the cynicism has not reached a high enough level *yet* ... LOL...

Let me put it another way... If I told you I was going to sell a picture of myself and another person with me on a recent trip I made to Africa — on eBay for a couple of thousands dollars to strangers who had never heard of me before and had no idea who I was ...

you would say that — *I was out of my freakin’ mind!*.... LOL...


366 posted on 07/02/2009 6:01:57 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: woofie

Placemarker


367 posted on 07/02/2009 6:11:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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I believe it is a scam. If anyone here has bid on the pics on eBay....I would withdraw the bid. Bidding on those pics is ridiculous...they are worthless at this point. He should have proven he has the BC first...then posted the pics for sale!

This guy is looking more and more like a scam artist....IMO.


368 posted on 07/02/2009 8:26:16 AM PDT by Curious George1978
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To: woofie

Pulled, again


369 posted on 07/02/2009 9:33:50 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith#play/uploads

Please read the Channel Comments


370 posted on 07/02/2009 9:47:43 AM PDT by Curious George1978
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To: Curious George1978
Here's what I don't get.

He offered to meet on the Capitol steps to allow the winning bidder to verify and inspect alleged document.

Besides being obviously dangerous, how did he think he was ever going to get paid if was a con?

Maybe he was trying to gain publicity to make the whole issue look like a right wing conspiracy?

The whole thing is just weird.

371 posted on 07/02/2009 9:58:24 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Curious George1978; Las Vegas Ron

Gee what happened to that whole other thread ?

It got blowed up


372 posted on 07/02/2009 10:12:28 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

skip that last comment..Im not awake yet


373 posted on 07/02/2009 10:17:10 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

I posted this on the other thread:

from the eBay listing:

I plan to upload a video to Youtube. My user name is InspectorSmith. I’ve had the account for some time. I have never uploaded anything. I mostly use Youtube to search for help, e.g., how to remove the battery (after it wont hold a charge for long) from the 1st generation iPhone or how to lay an English bond brick wall. So this will be the first time that I’ve ever uploaded anything. So you’ll get your document yet, up close and personal.

After the Youtube video I will be heading over to WorldNetDaily to talk with Joseph Farah. I will disclose everything to them.

(edit)

You are welcome to copy and paste, or save, the digital photo in this listing. This auction is not so much for $$$ gain. It’s meant to give a face or two to the O proof story. If anyone comes forward with our O proof other than one of the two faces that you see in this auction then you’ll know that it wasn’t the proof offered in our five previous auctions. Also this picture will vouch for the credibility of the soon coming Youtube video. If you don’t see one of the two faces that you see in this auction then you’ll know that it’s not our Youtube video. Again, the Youtube user name is InspectorSmith.

http://www.youtube.com/user/InspectorSmith

from Inspector Smith youtube:

Recent Activity Successfully removed. Sorry, an error occurred. InspectorSmith No one from the government has contacted me as of yet. (8 hours ago)

InspectorSmith By the way, the new pictures on Ebay. The newest is of Danwella and I. The other two are of me of course but, are only listed to show the background neighborhood in Africa. (8 hours ago)

InspectorSmith Thanks for your comments hopeful733, steviesstuff , tizawiza77 , mindymaucelli , Ford967, junkm452 , AirborneIdentity . (9 hours ago)

InspectorSmith We are working on the video right now. (9 hours ago)

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I would like to point out a few things ...
I have communicated with this person via eBay. All that they say has been true . They have been very up front. (I even have some totally independent confirmation of facts from another freeper)

The eBay listing was a total success (I heard it reached $1 mill in a day)yet was pulled 4? times.... maybe 5, because of our good friends at places like DU and KOS.

After pursuing every avenue available on eBay whatever plans the seller had were scratched through no fault of their own.... and a new strategy had to be devised.

I do not mind skepticism ...its healthy ....but the downright mean slams and preposterous paranoid fantasies are not called for here. You folks that are so sure this is a scam are just as bad as the people you accuse of being gullible. with the added weight that your mindset is exactly the same as those at KOS and DU.

I personally believe at this point that these folks believe they have the real document . They seem smart . If they do believe it its because they went to the Hospital and someone gave it to them . If they bought it from a street vender in Kenya or printed it themselves at Kinkos we will find out soon enough . The story is simple and plausible . The seller was friendly with Kenyans and I think had worked there ...he/she knew someone who knew someone. All it takes is a bureacrat willing to look up records in 1961. In New Mexico (where I live)to get though the bureacracy you better bake someone a cake.

end of rant.

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I think the fact that the ebay deal got pulled says a lot abot eBay and the fear of the DU ,KOS folks ...


374 posted on 07/02/2009 10:22:39 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“He offered to meet on the Capitol steps to allow the winning bidder to verify and inspect alleged document.”
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That’s what he offered in “print”. I’m sure he would have come up with another plan to obtain some of the money in advance....


375 posted on 07/02/2009 10:30:24 AM PDT by Curious George1978
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To: Curious George1978
That’s what he offered in “print”. I’m sure he would have come up with another plan to obtain some of the money in advance....

Ah, good point, though though buyer would have had to of been a total idiot to give up front money.....or a zer0 voter :)

376 posted on 07/02/2009 10:34:46 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

This ad of his was also REMOVED!
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Haunted House for Sale - eBay (item 160319668006 end time Mar-13-09 18 ...
eBay: Find Haunted House for Sale in the Everything Else , ... colmado_scarlette( 61) Feedback: 100. 100 % Positive. Member: since Dec-25-07 in United States ...
cgi.ebay.com/Haunted-House-for-Sale_W0QQitemZ160319668006QQihZ006QQ... - 106k


377 posted on 07/02/2009 10:39:47 AM PDT by Curious George1978
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