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Pentagon mulls easing 'don't ask, don't tell' law: Gates
AP via Breitbart ^ | June 30, 2009 | N/A

Posted on 06/30/2009 11:06:26 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar

The Pentagon is considering how it might ease the "don't ask, don't tell" law requiring gays to keep quiet about their sexual identity or face expulsion from the military, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Tuesday. "One of the things we're looking at is, is there flexibility in how we apply this law," Gates told reporters aboard a military plane.

The Pentagon boss said he discussed the issue last week with US President Barack Obama and that there also has been discussion among senior military and legal counsel about possible changes in how they apply the law, which he described as "very restrictive."

"We're talking about how do we move forward on this, achieve this objective which is changing the policy."

Gates added: "What I discovered when I got into it was it's a very restrictive law. It doesn't leave much to the imagination, or a lot of flexibility."

The defense secretary said one possible modification might be consider the circumstances under which a service member is "outed" in determining whether or not he or she must leave the military.

Gates offered as an example "when we're given information from someone with vengeance in mind or blackmail, somebody who has been jilted.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bhodod; bhohomosexualagenda; bhosecdef; blackmail; culturewar; dod; dontaskdonttell; fdrq; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; sexpositiveagenda
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1 posted on 06/30/2009 11:06:27 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; Free ThinkerNY; ...
The list, ping

good post

2 posted on 06/30/2009 11:19:10 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar

So really this boils down to Obama wanting the Pentagon to ignore the law to placate the gays without having to get rid of it entirely and face a potential political firestorm...what a piece of work.


3 posted on 06/30/2009 11:19:27 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: Jet Jaguar

Gates received a phone call yesterday from Barry during the WH visit by the bend over and just lube it advocates.


4 posted on 06/30/2009 11:25:53 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Nachum

Typical libtard approach to something.

The US military is the best in the world. So if it works they need to “fix” it by making it less good.

Idiots.

Personally I think it worked better when I enlisted. They asked you point blank if you were homosexual. if you said yes it was hasta la vista then and there. And if you lied and were later found out then your enlistment was fraudulent and out you were thrown.


5 posted on 06/30/2009 11:29:21 AM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

And to think, people used to get upset when I called Gates a spineless political hack...buttboy!


6 posted on 06/30/2009 11:31:24 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: AZ .44 MAG
They asked you point blank if you were homosexual. if you said yes it was hasta la vista then and there.

DON'T ASK - DON'T TELL is a much more fair and just policy.

3 Simple Common Sense concepts:

I do not care what your sexual preference is. I mind my own business.

The government does not need to know what your sexual preference is. They need to mind their own business.

YOU do not SHOW your sexual preference in public to anyone. Mind your own business and keep it to yourself.

7 posted on 06/30/2009 11:44:11 AM PDT by 08bil98z24 (The War on Drugs is unconstitutional.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“Gates added: “What I discovered when I got into it was it’s a very restrictive law. It doesn’t leave much to the imagination, or a lot of flexibility.””

These guys are a joke.... A total dang joke...

Of course it’s “restrictive” and “doesn’t leave much to the imagination” its not only a law its military policy... IT HAS TO BE..

The solution, for Obama, is easy... Throw out the law? but Zero needs to walk the tightrope between his supporters and the American public... Eventually he is going to fall..


8 posted on 06/30/2009 11:46:52 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Gates offered as an example "when we're given information from someone with vengeance in mind or blackmail, somebody who has been jilted. .... "If somebody is outed by a third party, does that force us to take action?" he said. ... "That's the kind of thing we're looking at -- seeing if there's a more humane way to apply the law until it gets changed."

Gee whiz, the timing is so convenient. And I really like the phrasing used too.

This couldn't have anything to do with Lindsey Graham being 'outed' a couple weeks ago by that wacky and vengeful lesbian politician in SC, now could it(1)? Being an Air Force Col. and JAG Officer(2) he could lose any and all benefits if its confirmed he's gay.

(1) There was a thread on it.
(2) I 'think' he's still in the SC Air National Guard (or Reserves?).

9 posted on 06/30/2009 11:50:11 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Jet Jaguar

So will these guys be assigned to putting the Hershey bars in the backpacks?


10 posted on 06/30/2009 11:52:48 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: 08bil98z24

I agree completely! I do not need to know your sex life; you do not need to know mine!

I say it all the time: while I am not asking gays to go back in the closet, I am begging them to keep their sex in the bedroom!


11 posted on 06/30/2009 11:56:12 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: 08bil98z24
DON'T ASK - DON'T TELL is a much more fair and just policy.

3 Simple Common Sense concepts:

I do not care what your sexual preference is. I mind my own business.

The government does not need to know what your sexual preference is. They need to mind their own business.

YOU do not SHOW your sexual preference in public to anyone. Mind your own business and keep it to yourself.

You're right about it being none of the government's business. But Don't Ask, Don't Tell does have a gray area in it that wasn't in the works when I enlisted.

From the article Gates offered as an example "when we're given information from someone with vengeance in mind or blackmail, somebody who has been jilted.

Now the government knows with out asking or the homosexual telling. What do you do now? I think that gives too much leeway to activists wanting to have a flagrant homosexual serving.

12 posted on 06/30/2009 11:56:56 AM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: 08bil98z24
The government does not need to know what your sexual preference is.

Ever been on a ship for six months? Doubt it or you wouldn't make that statement.

13 posted on 06/30/2009 11:59:16 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: 08bil98z24

Here is an alternative concept, taken from the text of the law: “Homosexuality is incompatible with military service”. This worked just fine during the Reagan Administration.


14 posted on 06/30/2009 12:00:32 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: 08bil98z24
YOU do not SHOW your sexual preference in public to anyone.

Ummm .... What do you think a marriage ceremony is? It's a public declaration that "Henceforth, Joe and Jane will be sleeping together. Everybody else keep your hands off!!!" Should Joe and Jane start producing offspring, little doubt will be left as to their "sexual preference".

DUH!

We need to quit playing pattycake with the perverts.

Homosexual acts are a grotesque inversion of nature, and the desire to commit them is a mental disorder.

The old method was better.

15 posted on 06/30/2009 12:03:59 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: itsahoot

Good point. The romantic element, whether homo or hetero, doesn’t belong on the combat team.


16 posted on 06/30/2009 12:19:39 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: Jet Jaguar

So are they going to ease the “sexual relations within the ranks” rule too? Or will homosexuals be granted special privileges?


17 posted on 06/30/2009 12:53:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Condor51
.... "If somebody is outed by a third party, does that force us to take action?" he said. ... "That's the kind of thing we're looking at -- seeing if there's a more humane way to apply the law until it gets changed."

Sort of the same policy the administration takes when they learn that a member hasn't paid taxes.

18 posted on 06/30/2009 12:55:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Gates offered as an example "when we're given information from someone with vengeance in mind or blackmail, somebody who has been jilted.

Being blackmailed has ALWAYS been a factor in keeping closeted homosexuals out of spheres of influence.

Blackmail itself is a crime.

19 posted on 06/30/2009 12:56:43 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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20 posted on 06/30/2009 2:53:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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