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Conservatism Won't Save America
Olive Tree Ministries, Email | Jan Markell

Posted on 06/24/2009 8:52:56 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

Can we take our government back in 2010 or 2012 and in like manner then take America back? That is what the majority of conservative talk show hosts keep proclaiming. I enjoy and learn a great deal from them but they are missing the mark. Their interpretation of "saving America" is most often turning more blue states into red states! They don't understand that changing America's political parties is not enough to turn the nasty tide. They are missing the root of the problem.

At the root of the troubling issues in America is the clash of worldviews and that goes well beyond conservatism and liberalism. I have emphasized the worldview issue on air recently, from my conversation with Dr. Ron Carlson on May 30 right through June 6 programming with Brannon Howse and Dr. David Noebel. Our nation's capitol is run by the worldview of secular humanists and that comes with a lot of baggage! Secular humanists occupy both sides of the aisle. There are also those in leadership with a biblical worldview, but we need many more because at present they are drowned out by the noise of the humanists.

A secular humanist believes he or she is a god and does not need the true God. He believes man is essentially good. That encourages the "appease disease." In other words, appease our worst enemies and treat them as our good friends, because in the end they will love us as we are all essentially good. This is why we see our leaders reaching out to the most vile and corrupt regimes (and abandoning longtime friends). The secular humanist would bitterly denounce the Bible verse that says, "The heart is deceitful and wicked above all things; who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9) And don't think that conservatives can't have a secular humanist worldview. It's an equal opportunity deceiver.

The biblical worldview says that we are a unique creation formed by a living God. But the humanist would suggest that our origin is from pond scum, apes, or monkeys. Because of this, the teaching in our public schools for decades has been that man is an accident caused by some slime billions of years ago. How tragic! The result is a seared conscience, indifference about life, and a philosophy that leans to the far left. That is why dictators can wipe out tens of millions and not bat an eyelash.

Installing more conservatives in government in 2010 or 2012 will not deal with today's rage against God, the new atheism, and the issues of a post-Christian America. Many of the commentators keep repeating that we must find a 21st century Ronald Reagan, but that will not turn this country around. Because God has been ripped from nearly every fabric of American life, even if political conservatives won every election in 2010 and 2012, without an American "heart change," our country will not recover.

It is worldview and not politics that determine everything, including our final destiny. God is looking for renewed hearts and not renewed ballot boxes.

If every state were a red state, our State Department would still never acknowledge that man is by nature sinful and needs a Savior.

Where do we begin to cause a turnaround in America? How about with our churches? A nation is only as strong as her churches are strong. Most of our churches will not preach on God's wrath and judgment. They will tell you God is all about love because that makes people come back the next week. Most of our churches -- thankfully not all -- are preaching a weak gospel that will never save souls! Many of our pulpits are filled with unsaved preachers who focus on a social gospel. When looking for pagans for whom to pray, don't forget some of our churches that have strayed and are no longer recognizable. They have smooth-talking preachers who tell stories and share fill-in-the-blank sermons.

Throw away the maps of the blue and red states. They are irrelevant. Listen to the talk show hosts for information and entertainment but remember that their solutions are light years away from the root of America's problems. They will tell you that their favorite potential political candidate for the presidency has the answers and America will shine as a bright light again, prosperity will return, and all will be well. As articulate, informative, and entertaining as they are, most of them haven't got a clue about what America really needs.

That is why they sound frustrated and perplexed. They do not yet understand that man's futile efforts at government won't ever properly work. They do not comprehend Isaiah 9:6-7: "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, on the throne of David, and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness from then on and forevermore."

Then, and only then, will government work.


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If My people who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek My Face, and turn from their wicked ways, THEN will I hear from Heaven, and will forgive their sins, and HEAL THEIR LAND. 2Chr 7:14
1 posted on 06/24/2009 8:52:58 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

And just how do you expect the Gospel to have any chance of spreading if we sit back and let the atheist Left take over the country?


2 posted on 06/24/2009 8:56:07 PM PDT by sthguard (The problem isn't Islamic terrorists; it's terroristic Islam!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
“A secular humanist believes he or she is a god and does not need the true God. He believes man is essentially good.”

That is Obama and the Left. Obama may THINK he is a Christian.

3 posted on 06/24/2009 8:57:12 PM PDT by ryan71 (We're in deep kimchi!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Prayer and militia groups might save America.

(Did I say that?)


4 posted on 06/24/2009 9:00:42 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

sharp political divisions are rarely settle without violence

the Bible notwithstanding..


5 posted on 06/24/2009 9:03:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life)
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To: Califreak

I think we are going to see chaos that is going to be unbelievable. We’re headed for a collapse that people can’t imagine. The strong will survive.....for a while.

Hope and Change is sure coming.


6 posted on 06/24/2009 9:05:02 PM PDT by unkus
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To: sthguard

And just how do you expect the Gospel to have any chance of spreading if we sit back and let the atheist Left take over the country?
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What little faith you have.


7 posted on 06/24/2009 9:06:20 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Califreak
At this point, I don't think America can be saved.

Enough is enough.

We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures.


8 posted on 06/24/2009 9:07:27 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Heaven help me, I’m starting to feel the same way.

I’m expecting tanks to roll in the fall.


9 posted on 06/24/2009 9:11:11 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: sthguard
"And just how do you expect the Gospel to have any chance of spreading if we sit back and let the atheist Left take over the country?"

"My ways are not your ways, and My thoughts are not your thoughts", says the LORD God Almighty. "If My people who are called by My Name will humble themselves and pray, and seek My Face, and turn from their wicked ways, THEN will I hear from Heaven, and will forgive their sins, and HEAL THEIR LAND!! --El Shaddai

10 posted on 06/24/2009 9:15:02 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Because they didn't want to receive the truth,.God gave them over to a depraved mind.)
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The biblical worldview says that we are a unique creation formed by a living God. But the humanist would suggest that our origin is from pond scum, apes, or monkeys.

There was a promo for the short lived TV version of THE BIG EASY, which featured this exchange between the characters played in the movie by Ellen Barkin and Dennis Quaid :

"Don't you people do anything besides fighting, eating little lobsters, and sleeping with married women?"

"We call 'em crawfish, dahlin'"

In that spirit, I offer the correction, "the humanist would suggest that our origin is from pond scum, apes, AND monkeys."

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground ...

11 posted on 06/24/2009 9:17:00 PM PDT by dr_lew
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0bama may THINK he is a Christian

Excuse me?

To quote the man himself: "My Muslim faith..."
12 posted on 06/24/2009 9:25:48 PM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy - with solutions based on Lies.)
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If every state were a red state, our State Department would still never acknowledge that man is by nature sinful and needs a Savior.

Ping for later

13 posted on 06/24/2009 9:35:57 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: sthguard

we can do what the libs do. Lie to get elected, then run things the way we WANT to!


14 posted on 06/24/2009 9:44:59 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Iam1ru1-2

“And don’t think that conservatives can’t have a secular humanist worldview. It’s an equal opportunity deceiver.”

In my view, no one who has a secular humanist worldview can truthfully be called a conservative.

A person may subscribe to this conservative principle or that, but so long as he remains a secular humanist he is not “a” conservative. He is missing the glue that holds all those conservative principles together and makes them coherent.


15 posted on 06/24/2009 10:13:28 PM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I disagree with the notion that conservatism and morality represents the minority.

It is yet another lie by the propaganda wing (media) of the socialist party in the US.

The intent of the lie is to make us believe that we are the minority so that we will keep our mouth shut.

We better start getting serious about dealing with this enemy among us... who comes to us from an industry which was clearly compromised long ago and is now in our living rooms via cable news.

It’s not enough to just turn the channel.
We need to stop paying the cable bill.
We need to start putting market forces to bear on the advertisers and supporters of the propaganda wing of the socialist party.


16 posted on 06/24/2009 10:19:51 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

When members of the “conservative movement” are caught cheating on their wives with another woman, or for tax evasion, divorcing their spouse and “checking out” a new prospective spouse while the present spouse is suffering from a terminal illness, then the conservative movement has rotted on the vine even before it has fallen. We need to re-educate the children and adults about morality, fidelity, truth, and that we are a created being in the likeness of the Creator which the founders of this nation totally believed in. Then we can talk about other things. We have to stop masking the symptoms of our problems. We need to heal the problems themselves!!


17 posted on 06/24/2009 10:35:11 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Because they didn't want to receive the truth,.God gave them over to a depraved mind.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
We all fall short of the Glory of God. Just go back and read the letters of the founders of our country and their wives, their trust and believe in the Sovereign God of the universe and you will look into a mirror and gasp at how far we have veered off the track. All of us have a ways to go to match the sincerity and trust in God that our ancestors of the 17th & 18th Century had. Let us start at home. May our Lord God help us all. Human freedom to live but especially worship God is inherit in our Constitution. I am afraid we have grown way too complacent to recognize the true cost of freedom.
18 posted on 06/24/2009 10:50:16 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: Califreak

Well, whose hand was on the keyboard? Couldn’t have been MINE, I assure you!!!

(A big “Give it over to GOD” bump.)


19 posted on 06/24/2009 10:50:44 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave

OTOH, Cf. II Samuel 11


20 posted on 06/24/2009 10:56:52 PM PDT by dr_lew
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