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Lessons Learned from Iran Uprising
Pajamas Media ^ | June 23 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 06/23/2009 11:47:26 AM PDT by AJKauf

Let’s review the bidding, shall we? The “election circus” took place a week ago Friday, and demonstrations began that night, June 12th. Ten days have passed. What have we learned?

–First, that a significant number of Iranians hate the regime and are prepared to die to bring it down;

–Second, that the fanatical religious zealots that hold the guns, chains, knives, tear gas cannisters, high-powered water hoses, sniper rifles and (perhaps) chemical weapons (said by some to have been deployed from helicopters), are prepared to order the killing of any number of Iranians in order to maintain their own power and preserve the Islamic Republic;

–Third, that women are playing a key role in the insurrection (a central element of any good analysis of events in Iran, which is invariably overlooked, even by some outstanding scholars)....

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iran; ledeen; lessons
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1 posted on 06/23/2009 11:47:26 AM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

N-th. Bring guns.


2 posted on 06/23/2009 11:48:36 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite

1) Don’t ever let the gov’t disarm the citizens.
2) Yes, this CAN happen here.


3 posted on 06/23/2009 11:49:57 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: AJKauf
...The biggest thing learned is our forefathers were so on the money in making sure the populous has the right to bear arms. Iran stands as an example of what can happen to a population who does not have that right
4 posted on 06/23/2009 11:51:29 AM PDT by never4get (We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid)
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To: AJKauf

Voices and signs mean nothing when the government you are protesting has guns and not afraid to use them against you.

Solution, come heavy or not at all


5 posted on 06/23/2009 11:52:00 AM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: AJKauf
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.

A revolution is not a dinner party.

6 posted on 06/23/2009 11:52:13 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pas d'ennmis a droit)
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To: AJKauf
The “revolution” in Iran is over. The fire is gone and the will has faded. They populace will return to whatever life they had before. The RG will search out leaders and they will be tried and executed. Next story please.
7 posted on 06/23/2009 11:53:02 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: AJKauf
I wonder how much of the protest is driven by the knowledge that the Iranians suspect they will die in a shower of atomic warheads unless the government changes coarse immediately?
8 posted on 06/23/2009 11:56:04 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: AJKauf

The article asked — What have we learned?

Well, I can say what I know and also, what I hope that others have learned.

I know that electing one Muslim terrorist is as good as electing another Muslim terrorist...

It makes no difference...


9 posted on 06/23/2009 11:56:14 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: AJKauf
Lessons Learned from Iran Uprising

One more lesson for the World: As long as Baraq Hussein 0bama sits in the White House, don't count on the US for anything, even moral support!

10 posted on 06/23/2009 11:57:32 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Iran's Cry for Freedom - Obama can't be bothered. Above his Pay Grade?)
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11 posted on 06/23/2009 11:58:45 AM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You said — The “revolution” in Iran is over. The fire is gone and the will has faded. They populace will return to whatever life they had before. The RG will search out leaders and they will be tried and executed. Next story please.

As long as those 98% of the population in Iran continue to adhere to the false and evil religion and government idealogy (being one and the same...), they’ll simply elect one Muslilm terrorist or another Muslim terrorist for their leader.

There will never be anything different there in Iran as long as they continue agreeing to be subjects of *Islam*...

The key is not “elections” — because Muslims continue election Muslim terrorists for leaders. The key is *dumping* Islam in the first place.


12 posted on 06/23/2009 11:59:05 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: AJKauf

Pretty simple.

We riot and get upset when the Lakers win the title.

We aren’t upset by the Trillions pumped out by the Fed and wasted by the Gov’t under the Republicans and Democrats.

Yet, Iran has an election and the people cry out.

We are the losers.


13 posted on 06/23/2009 12:02:01 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: counterpunch

So..., he’s supposed to be upset that the *other* Muslim terrorist candidate didn’t get elected... LOL...

Here’s your other Muslim terrorist candidate...


Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mousavi

Iranian reformist may seem moderate but his history is one of a radical sympathizer of the ayatollahs’ regime. Can a leopard really change its spots?

Smadar Peri
Published: 06.18.09, 14:22 / Israel News

Reformist Iranian leader Mir-Hossein Mousavi, with his sleek, striped shirts and overall serene demeanor, may seem like the nuclear threat-wary West’s wildest dream, but a closer look into the man’s past reveals a darker image, of a man who was a radical sympathizer of the ayatollahs.

Mousavi (67), who became Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s main political rival during the last presidential race, is an architect by training, an amateur artist and a would-be poet, who has penned dozens of romantic songs.

His presidential campaign focused on problems rooted within the Islamic Republic: He pledged to improve the status of women, fight unemployment, poverty and the younger generation’s disconcerting affection for drugs, and he vowed that change will come.

His resume, however, depicts an extremist – a man who is not so different than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

[ ... ]


at http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3733426,00.html


14 posted on 06/23/2009 12:13:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Domandred

“Solution, come heavy or not at all”

Can I get an AMEN!


15 posted on 06/23/2009 12:15:11 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Domandred
... the government you are protesting has guns and not afraid to use them against you.

Solution, come heavy or not at all

Irregardless of what anyone thinks of the theology of David Koresh, the Branch Davidians were the canary in the coal mine.

16 posted on 06/23/2009 12:29:40 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

The hills will have more than eyes as the “next Waco” unfolds.


17 posted on 06/23/2009 12:31:09 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Domandred
anti-revolution excercise
18 posted on 06/23/2009 12:32:11 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Star Traveler

Once again you prove your own ineptness.
This is not about picking Mousavi over Ahmadinejad.
It is about the uprising against the whole corrupt theocratic regime in Iran.

0bama has chosen the side of the Mullahs, not the Iranian People.
And it looks like you’ve chosen the side of 0bama.


19 posted on 06/23/2009 12:35:43 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: AJKauf

There’ll be an uprising here soon, if Obanaga keeps pushing us!


20 posted on 06/23/2009 12:36:35 PM PDT by blondee123 (Barack O'Lenin, King of United Socialist America!)
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