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To: dervish
I personally understand the hostility of the non-Jewish Freepers on this site to the American Jewish voters. I don’t blame them. So do numerous Jewish Conservative authors, many posted here, who are decrying the vote of their fellow Jews. We all feel the same way.

I don't, but I admit I don't feel hostility to blacks, hispanics, Catholics or young people either, so it just might be be. However, this being a political forum, you must acknowledge hostility is no way to win voters. Would you invite a middle of the road Jewish voter here, to embrace the love of the right? Better be selective in the threads you let him read.

I won’t insult these posters’ intelligence or impugn their motives by claiming it is anti-Semitism that makes them rail against the US Jewish vote.

In most cases I think it's stupidity. The internet encourages that, you can say things here you wouldn't under normal circumstances. The other side of the coin, it's there forever.

How can I? I feel the same anger and betrayal. I see from their anger caring for the reverse - not just caring for the US but also caring for Israel.

It's not about Israel. Anyone who embraces the Chamberlain approach to the WOT will obviously embrace it for Israel. It's about their worldview. Accusing a Chamberlain Jew of not caring about Israel is fruitless, he may well care. I've no doubt Chamberlain cared about Englands security, he was simply wrong.

Nevertheless some comments are over the top. It is not ALL Jews. And Jews alone are not responsible for Obama’s election. Please don’t alienate the posters here. We are on the same side.

I'm not alienating anyone, other than the over the top posters perhaps.

87 posted on 06/23/2009 6:13:49 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SJackson

Let’s start with your last comment:

“I’m not alienating anyone, other than the over the top posters perhaps.”

I was not referring to you. I was saying that the people who make over the top comments about Jewish voters run the risk of alienating Jewish conservative voters.

“In most cases I think it’s stupidity.”

Sorry I don’t think they are stupid or anti-Semitic. I agree with them. Are they not entitled to feel the way I do just because they are not Jewish. That’s the same as only blacks can say the ‘N’ word.

“I don’t, but I admit I don’t feel hostility to blacks, hispanics”

I do. I think the Obama election set back race relations tremendously. I am very upset at the racism that resulted in Blacks voting for Obama just because he was black.

“It’s not about Israel. Anyone who embraces the Chamberlain approach to the WOT will obviously embrace it for Israel. It’s about their worldview. Accusing a Chamberlain Jew of not caring about Israel is fruitless, he may well care.”

I agree. In my construct the Chamberlin J Street Jew is not reachable. I and Morton Klein, I believe, are talking about group #3. They are not appeasement minded. They were misled due to their leftist penchants.

They are the group that voted 39% for Reagan in 1980 after they saw Carter’s stripes.


95 posted on 06/23/2009 6:59:30 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: SJackson

“Anyone who embraces the Chamberlain approach to the WOT will obviously embrace it for Israel. It’s about their worldview. Accusing a Chamberlain Jew of not caring about Israel is fruitless, he may well care. I’ve no doubt Chamberlain cared about Englands security, he was simply wrong.”

Very true.


110 posted on 06/24/2009 11:56:43 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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