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[President] Bush's democratic dream for Middle East playing out in Iran
The Calgary Herald ^ | June 22, 2009 | Nigel Hannaford

Posted on 06/22/2009 10:28:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Whatever else former president George W. Bush got wrong, he was right about this at least: "The world has a clear interest in the spread of democratic values, because stable and free nations do not breed the ideologies of murder." (Speech to American Enterprise Institute, February 2003.) That is, foster liberty in the world’s most oppressive countries and watch the axis of evil bend, then break.

Look at Iran today.

True, the burden of proof is on anybody who wants to attribute a passion for liberty to Tehran’s crowds. At one point, more than a million people were thought to be out disputing the announced result of their country’s election, which against all likelihood and expectation, handed power to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for another four years. That’s a lot of people demanding, "Where’s my vote?"

But, it could be about the economic shambles. Inflation is high, so is unemployment. Iran exports oil, but must import gasoline.

Ahmadinejad wasn’t running on his record.

Or, they might just really prefer defeated candidate Mir Hussein Mousavi, who presents as sane, while Ahmadinejad is inflammatory and given to apocalyptic visions. (Ahmadinejad reportedly describes to friends how when he spoke at the UN in 2005, he was surrounded by an aura of divine green light: Just as some Christians are no less faithful for finding an unloving televangelist a bit much, so we shouldn’t assume Iranian Muslims are all as keen as Ahmadinejad, to welcome the 12th imam and usher in history’s end .)

Then, there’s the Israeli perspective that none of it matters. Consul General Amir Gissin gloomily commented in Calgary last week that both Ahmadinejad and Mousavi needed approval from Iran’s governing clerical council before running.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bush; greenmovement; greenrevolution; iran; iranviolence2009; islam; middleeast; mousavi; obama
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Wow! It only took four and a half months for this Canadian. How long will it take until the Kool-aid drinkers here wake up and smell what the Barack is cooking?

Mr. Obama isn't fit to shine President Bush's shoes, much less President Reagan's or Kennedy's. All three were serious men with a sense of duty and love of country, no matter what their mistakes might have been. Now, we have a "rock star" in the White House just in time for World War III!!

1 posted on 06/22/2009 10:28:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Look at Iran today.

My understanding is that most of these kids are communists. Just because they oppose Ahmadinejad, does not mean they are our friends.

2 posted on 06/22/2009 10:32:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

They most definitely are not out friends. The Iranians are drama queens. They love a good demonstration no matter what the cause. Remember the Allatoha’s funeral and they were bouncing him around like a beach ball?


3 posted on 06/22/2009 10:40:39 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Carry_Okie

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. We fought beside communist armies in World War II against Hitler and Tojo.


4 posted on 06/22/2009 10:42:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In memory of my father, Gunnery Sgt., USMC, WWII and Korea, 1925-2002)
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To: montanajoe
Remember the Allatoha’s funeral...

Sure do. I've also heard spokesbabes wailing about "thousands slaughtered in the streets." The mullahs may be bad, but they aren't there yet.

I've known a fair number of Persians. Most of them were pretty decent as long as they stuck to business. There's just something really nasty about Islamists, where just about nothing sets them bouncing off the walls.

5 posted on 06/22/2009 10:47:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I find it ironic that a million people stand to fight with rocks and sticks in hopes of gaining their freedom, while nearly 400 million of us, do near nothing.... to keep ours.


6 posted on 06/22/2009 10:51:15 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. We fought beside communist armies in World War II against Hitler and Tojo.

And it was an evil piece of skullduggery by a bunch of commies in the Roosevelt administration that has cost us trillions, and may yet cost us our freedom considering who we have in the White House.

Had we played it right, Hitler would have taken out the Russians, getting their army stuck in Siberia while we came in behind. Instead that alliance enslaved over a hundred million for fifty years.

7 posted on 06/22/2009 10:51:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Gator113

Especially when we’re armed-to-the-teeth and most of our military is overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, the Balkans, etc. Exactly who would this administration use to quell disturbances? The New Black Panthers? It is to laugh!! Any FFA chapter with their .22’s and 20 gauges would send those suckas running!


8 posted on 06/22/2009 10:55:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In memory of my father, Gunnery Sgt., USMC, WWII and Korea, 1925-2002)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend. “

Not necessarily.


9 posted on 06/22/2009 10:56:44 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Gator113

Rembember Tiarhan, we will be like them soon but some of us will have guns.


10 posted on 06/22/2009 11:00:30 PM PDT by joydocsusie (ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE USAh)
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To: Gator113

Rembember Tiarhan, we will be like them soon but some of us will have guns.


11 posted on 06/22/2009 11:00:30 PM PDT by joydocsusie (ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE USAh)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2276567/posts?page=14#14
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2276567/posts?page=19#19


12 posted on 06/22/2009 11:01:10 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (One of President Bush's reasons for liberating Iraq is now bearing fruit in Iran!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Squantos; jimrob

Couldn’t figure where to post this.

Images get em while you can...

Obama toilet roll in a KFC type bucket box.

http://gizmodo.com/5300419/why-is-brando-selling-obamas-face-on-a—kfc-bucket/gallery/?skyline=true&s=i


13 posted on 06/22/2009 11:07:26 PM PDT by fishhound (I was born here in America.)
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To: All; joydocsusie

Hi-Point C9 9mm pistol. About $130, brand new with a lifetime, transferable warranty! Also comes in .380, .40 S&W and .45 and carbines. What's everyone's excuse now for not being armed?

14 posted on 06/22/2009 11:15:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In memory of my father, Gunnery Sgt., USMC, WWII and Korea, 1925-2002)
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To: fishhound

Loved the comments on that page.......... we bash The Magic Mulatto and it’s racism, they bash Bush and it’s patriotism.

Idiots.......their games won’t play with me .

Loved the idea for the bucket.....may have to print up some hope and change kenyan kommunist crap, snag a bucket of KFC tomorrow and do a little art work of my own later this weekend.........:o)

Thanks for the funny Fish !


15 posted on 06/22/2009 11:18:03 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t forget that zero wants an in country security force “just as strong, just as well funded” as the US military. And the worshippers mindlessly cheered when he made this pronouncement....


16 posted on 06/22/2009 11:40:48 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Carry_Okie

Sheeshhhh...finally someone who gets it!!

These guys are the same one who tomorrow or yesterday were dancing in the streets of Teheran after September 11th - they are the same crowd who wants the death to all jews - they are the same crowd who shouts Death to America - same crowd who rally, full of hatred after a Danish cartoon!

The only difference today is tat the are upset after their own...too bad...when Bush was President, they could not insult him enough - could not spit on and burn the American flag enough...now they need our help??? Ain’t gotta get it with Obama - and guess what: tomorrow they will shout Death to America again - and death to Israel again.

What opportunity? What will they be against tomorrow? Planning to kill another 3000 Americans?


17 posted on 06/22/2009 11:58:02 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246
Actually, Iran was about the only muslim country that didn't dance in the street for 9/11. They actually had candl light vigils.

Μολὼν λάβε


18 posted on 06/23/2009 2:46:57 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: wastoute

Oh...if this is true, then I apologize for my harsh reaction :-)


19 posted on 06/23/2009 9:22:59 AM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Islam is not compatible with democracy. Islam means ‘submission’... first to Allah, satan in disguise, and then to the ruling mullahs or imams. Sadly, this Iranian uprise will end up with the same result... submission.


20 posted on 06/23/2009 9:25:09 AM PDT by BigFinn (Islam IS what Islam DOES.)
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