Posted on 06/22/2009 3:18:05 PM PDT by reaganaut1
Democrats are becoming bolder about their idea that middle-class familes get the option of joining a government insurance plan in any overhaul of the health care system. Their fervor carries a risk.
Liberals, citing polls that show support for a public plan, say they are increasingly frustrated with negotiations to make the idea more palatable to Republicans. Moderates, however, warn that abandoning the talks could jeopardize efforts to draft a bill that can pass a closely divided Senate.
"It is important not to draw lines in the sand and rule out options before they are fully explored," Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D. said Monday. "If we do, we could easily wind up with no viable option at all."
Conrad has proposed creating nonprofit health insurance co-ops as an alternative to a full-blown government plan. His idea was seen as perhaps the last hope for compromise on the issue. But another influential Democrat is complaining that talks with Republicans may be headed for a dead end.
"I don't think I could say with a straight face that this (co-op proposal) is at all close to a nationwide public option," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "Right now, this co-op idea doesn't come close to satisfying anyone who wants a public plan."
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Schumer told The Associated Press that negotiation with Republicans have proved frustrating, saying that he and his Democratic colleagues now may have to go it alone on the issue of a public plan.
He said Finance Republicans had rejected several proposals designed to beef up the suggested nonprofit insurance co-ops. These included setting up a national structure for the co-ops, $10 billion in government seed money, power to negotiate payment rates to medical providers nationwide and creation of a presidentially appointed board of directors.
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I hope the negotiations fail and the Dims go forward with their radical scheme. That would give us the best chance of picking off some red state Dims and killing this thing.
I hope the negotiations fail and the Dims go forward with their radical scheme. That would give us the best chance of picking off some red state Dims and killing this thing.
WE DON’T WANT ANY BILLS PASSED!!!!! What do they NOT get about that? We don’t WANT ANY sort of bill drafted for God’s sake.
They cut the Republicans out of the deal but then want them to vote for it? I don’t understand why the Republicans just don’t tell them to pound sand. They have the votes to pass this crap thanks to friggin’ Maine’s two RINOs.
Make us all honorary Congresscritters. That’s the ticket!
Well I do hear that some Red Rats are getting antsy about this.
[That would give us the best chance of picking off some red state Dims. . .]
If nothing else, Republicans will pick up enough seats in 2010 to gridlock Congress and slow the insanity for two years.
"It is important not to draw lines in the sand and rule out options before they are fully explored," Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D. said Monday. "If we do, we could easily wind up with no viable option at all." Conrad has proposed creating nonprofit health insurance co-ops as an alternative to a full-blown government plan. His idea was seen as perhaps the last hope for compromise on the issue. But another influential Democrat is complaining that talks with Republicans may be headed for a dead end. "I don't think I could say with a straight face that this (co-op proposal) is at all close to a nationwide public option," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "Right now, this co-op idea doesn't come close to satisfying anyone who wants a public plan."The only public plan is for the Demagogic Party to push for some kind of health plan, have it go down in flames, and blame the Pubbies.
I hate when they quote that fake number of Americans without health insurance.....
Every leagal American citizen can have health insurance. It is their choice. Granted it is expensive but it is not denied.
The number that the Democrats keep chiding includes Illegals and people that just don’t want to PAY for their own coverage..
Heck if Government is going to start insuring everyone ... maybe we should demand Car, House, Life, Health, Pet insurance and get taxpayers to pay for all of it....
MORE UNDERHANDED ANTICS FROM THE....grrrrr
House Democrat leadership again blocked my efforts to stop funneling your tax dollars to ACORN, which is under investigation or indictment in more than a dozen states for voter registration fraud.
My colleague, Steve King (R-IA) and I had planned to offer amendments to the spending bill that included the Census and other programs at the U.S. Department of Commerce. The amendments would have prohibited ACORN from getting taxpayer dollars through any programs funded in that bill, plain and simple.
At the eleventh-hour, House leadership restricted debate on amendments to that funding bill, denying debate for these amendments and nearly a hundred others. Interestingly, it was on the very day that ACORN celebrated its 39th birthday with a big reception in the nation’s capital that the House installed this gag rule.
There are a number of other funding bills that still must come before the House and I hope to be able to offer other similar amendments to ensure that your hard-earned tax dollars are not given to organizations that can’t meet the highest standards of ethical behavior. Taxpayer funding is not a right for any group, and it should be reserved for those organizations who have earned the people’s trust.
Will Congress Again Rescue ACORN?
Michele Bachmann
Put us all in Schumer’s plan.
I watched 5 minutes of ‘The Ed Show’ on S&MNBC and they were QUOTING a NYT/CBS poll that 72% of Americans WANT socialized health care!!! Ha! Spread that propaganda, Zero lap dogs!
We can’t afford it.
When the inevitable happens, when the people finally realize that the rats have stolen another one of their Natural Rights, to select and contract their own health care, I want their wrath to be directed in the proper direction.
If our congress-clowns think their phone lines are jammed with co-called constituent services now, wait until they get calls about parents wallowing in their own filth as they slowly die in excruciating pain.
I really think we have a decent chance to kill this health care monster despite the Dim majorities. The Dims are acting like they won’t even compromise enough to get the Susan Collinses but they aren’t counting on some red staters like Bayh thinking about the blowback when people find this new monster worse than the old system. I think some Dims may oppose this out of survival instinct.
What remains of our Constitution hangs on the defeat of obamacare.
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