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Hate rhetoric doesn't advance abortion debate
NJ Star Ledger ^ | June 19, 2009 | Raymond A. Schroth

Posted on 06/21/2009 8:12:30 AM PDT by presidio9

Last winter, the Boston College security policeman phoned me to warn me that someone had placed a sign on my car in the parking garage that suggested I might be in danger. It called me a bunch of foul names, including "baby killer!"

I have just returned to Jersey City after a year at Boston College writing a book on Rev. Robert F. Drinan, S.J., the B.C. law school dean elected to Congress from Massachusetts in 1970 who campaigned against the Vietnam War and called for the impeachment of President Nixon on the basis of his illegal bombing of Cambodia. Drinan was elected five times, but was forced out of office in 1980 by Pope John Paul II, largely because of his support for legalized abortion.

The anonymous vandal in the Boston garage had no idea whose car it was. He or she seems to have been enraged by the rear bumper sticker, put in place during the presidential campaign, which read: "CATHOLIC DEMOCRATS/Blessed Are the Peacemakers." In his/her warped mind, since I was voting for Barack Obama, I must be the kind of fellow who kills babies.

Somehow this rhetoric has made its way into the abortion fracas. I have to call it a fracas, since it certainly is not a civil discussion nor a dialogue. A letter to the editor in the latest Brooklyn Tablet, the Catholic diocesan newspaper, calls President Obama a "smooth-talking baby killer."

The term has become the verbal equivalent of that four-letter obscenity angry people blurt out when they can't think of anything

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; bostoncollege; catholic; moralabsolutes; presidiot9; prolife
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To: mrmeangenes
God gave us all free choice, and I am not arrogant enough to insert myself into the relationship between a woman and her Maker - much as I might dislike her choice.

You have no concern for the rights or the life of the child. What a "man" you are. More like a feminazi dream.

Remember Dane? He was here a long time too. He continually pissed people off. Then he got the zot.

You're looking a lot like Dane.

41 posted on 06/21/2009 1:44:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: wagglebee

I guess it would have been more appropriate to you If I had stuck my fingers in my ears, and screamed: “Neener ! Neener !!”; had griped and groaned at each and every decision-even when it is the one fellow conservatives have suggested; had sulked and whined “Are we there yet ?” before the wheels fairly started to turn.

I imagine that would have put me in lock step with you -but wait !

Perhaps I should have muttered darkly about revolution and stockpiled (not hoarded !) arms and ammuntion.

Would that have made me a suitable Freeper, neighbor ??


42 posted on 06/21/2009 1:49:15 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes

You’re sounding more and more like a troll by the minute.


43 posted on 06/21/2009 1:56:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: presidio9
Hate rhetoric doesn't advance abortion debate

Who said something like "he who controls the language controls the thought."?

44 posted on 06/21/2009 1:59:01 PM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass resistance.)
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To: mrmeangenes; buccaneer81
God gave us all free choice, and I am not arrogant enough to insert myself into the relationship between a woman and her Maker - much as I might dislike her choice.

Typical pro-abortion rhetoric, we've heard it all before.

Does this work for you?:

"I would never commit [murder/rape/armed robbery/arson], but I am not arrogant enough to insert myself into another person's choice to commit [murder/rape/armed robbery/arson]."

45 posted on 06/21/2009 2:00:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: presidio9

I would not want to be on the wrong side of the abortion “debate” with God.


46 posted on 06/21/2009 2:12:22 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: wagglebee

I’m sure you’ve heard it all before-and apparently none of it sank in.


47 posted on 06/21/2009 2:19:06 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: wagglebee

And you are sounding more like yourself by the minute.

Take a bow for the folks !


48 posted on 06/21/2009 2:20:23 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes; buccaneer81; Erik Latranyi; presidio9; Balding_Eagle; MHGinTN; Coleus; narses; ...
I’m sure you’ve heard it all before-and apparently none of it sank in.

Yes troll, I have heard all of the pro-abortion rhetoric before and I will NEVER accept it.

You and your abortionist ilk are responsible for the deaths of over 50 MILLION INNOCENT AMERICANS since 1973 and from your smug comments it's obvious that this tragedy pleases you.

49 posted on 06/21/2009 2:25:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Natural Law
I am not willing to let the left control the argument by controlling the language. What they call “Hate Speech” can honestly be called “Truth Speech”. Those who voted Democrat are accomplices in the murder of millions of innocent babies every year. Like harry Truman said; “I'm not giving them hell. I'm giving them the truth and it feels like hell."

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Exactly right.

50 posted on 06/21/2009 2:28:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

I could not agree more.


51 posted on 06/21/2009 2:35:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Let’s see: you’ve called me a troll, an abortionist,and one who is pleased with abortion.

I shall cry myself to sleep tonight.................NOT.


52 posted on 06/21/2009 2:36:42 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes; buccaneer81; Erik Latranyi; presidio9; Balding_Eagle; MHGinTN; Coleus; narses; ...
Let’s see: you’ve called me a troll, an abortionist,and one who is pleased with abortion.

I shall cry myself to sleep tonight.................NOT.

Well, at least you've accepted what you are.

53 posted on 06/21/2009 2:38:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: mrmeangenes
Let’s see: you’ve called me a troll, an abortionist,and one who is pleased with abortion.

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Do you object to this characterization?

54 posted on 06/21/2009 2:43:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham; mrmeangenes
Do you object to this characterization?

It certainly doesn't look that way.

55 posted on 06/21/2009 2:45:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

It’s difficult to argue with the truth.


56 posted on 06/21/2009 2:46:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Yes I did object - but perhaps the mild sarcasm went over your heads.

I’d love to stay and chat longer, but have more important things to do : taking out the garbage, checking for nose hairs, etc.

So long for now. See you down the road !


57 posted on 06/21/2009 2:54:22 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: trisham

You’re right, but this certainly isn’t the forum to gloat over the slaughter of over 50 million innocent babies.


58 posted on 06/21/2009 2:55:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: mrmeangenes

Not if we see you first.


59 posted on 06/21/2009 2:58:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mrmeangenes
Yes I did object - but perhaps the mild sarcasm went over your heads.

Nonsense, you said you wouldn't "insert yourself" into a woman's "choice" to kill her child.

Anything you said about not liking the choice is consistent with the rhetoric of EVERY pro-abortion politician I've ever heard.

60 posted on 06/21/2009 2:58:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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