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(US) House condemns Tehran crackdown on protesters ( 405 in favor, Ron Paul against )
Breitbart ^ | Jun 19 12:43 PM US/Eastern | ANNE FLAHERTY Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/19/2009 10:24:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

WASHINGTON (AP) - In the strongest message yet from the U.S. government, the House voted 405-1 Friday to condemn Tehran's crackdown on demonstrators and the government's interference with Internet and cell phone communications.

The resolution was initiated by Republicans as a veiled criticism of President Barack Obama, who has been reluctant to criticize Tehran's handling of disputed elections that left hard-liner President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in power.

Rep. Mike Pence, who co-sponsored the resolution, said he disagrees with the administration that it must not meddle in Iran's affairs.

"When Ronald Reagan went before the Brandenburg Gate, he did not say Mr. (Mikhail) Gorbachev, that wall is none of our business," said Pence, R-Ind., of President Reagan's famous exhortation to the Soviet leader to "tear down that wall."

Democrats, who are quick to voice their support for Israel anytime the Jewish state is seen as under siege, easily agreed to push through the mildly worded resolution.

Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and co-sponsor of the resolution, said "it is not for us to decide who should run Iran, much less determine the real winner of the June 12 election.

"But we must reaffirm our strong belief that the Iranian people have a fundamental right to express their views about the future of their country freely and without intimidation," added Berman, D-Calif.

Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., have proposed a similar measure in the Senate, although a vote was not certain.

The policy statement expresses support for "all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties and rule of law" and affirms "the importance of democratic and fair elections."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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To: Captain Kirk
"Thanks for the free advertising...."

....said Bernie Maddoff.

121 posted on 06/19/2009 1:20:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Too sick for words!)
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To: servantboy777

We haven’t left yet.


122 posted on 06/19/2009 1:20:54 PM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: Lazamataz

I knew that would raise your hackles.


123 posted on 06/19/2009 1:21:38 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Lazamataz
--who wants America to withdraw into a shell, which is impossible in the highly-connected world we live in.--
124 posted on 06/19/2009 1:22:10 PM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Lazamataz
I just can't bother with someone like that.

Well...I suppose if you can't handle someone who disagrees with you (except for calling them names), we can't have a conversation. We agree on that much apparently.

125 posted on 06/19/2009 1:22:12 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Big_Monkey
"So you the lone member of the Neville Chamberlain fan club. I wondered who it was....

Glad you shared your alternate universe with us -- it was almost entertaining.

126 posted on 06/19/2009 1:22:24 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: mysterio
"Ok, let’s look at it a different way. Let’s say you are America and you want to encourage the Iranians to have another election because you think the results are corrupt. Considering that power rests solely in the hands of the mullah ruling class, do you think a resolution passed by the US House of Representatives will further or hinder that cause?"

The Mullah's are eventually going to lose this fight. It may not be this time, but it will certainly be the next. Do you want to be on the winning side, or the losing side?

If we stand with the young and the professionals, they'll remember that when they're in power. Just like the Islamic fundamentalists remembered that we stood (at least for a little while) with the Shah. Look how that turned out.

127 posted on 06/19/2009 1:25:04 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: servantboy777
It appears then your knowledge of the constitution is limited. My point has been made.

I haven't offered my views on the Constitution because I don't think it's an issue here. It doesn't surprise me that Ron Paul *does* think it's an issue though. He's entitled to his opinion just as you are.

Don't say though, that nobody's ever explained to you why we're there. That's the only reason I responded to you. If you want to debate the Constitutional merits of it, then I'm not interested.

128 posted on 06/19/2009 1:27:25 PM PDT by csense
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To: Big_Monkey
If we stand with the young and the professionals, they'll remember that when they're in power. Just like the Islamic fundamentalists remembered that we stood (at least for a little while) with the Shah. Look how that turned out.

With all due respect, you are contradicting yourself. The very fact that we picked someone to "stand with" in the first place wss the source of the original problem. Had we let Mossadeq remain in power, for example, Iran might now be a vibrant democracy and friend to the U.S. As with domestic policy, you can't solve the problems created by intervention with more intervention. The best solution is to get out of the way and let the Iranians create the own revolution.

129 posted on 06/19/2009 1:28:26 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: GSWarrior

I haven’t had hackles since 1979. :)


130 posted on 06/19/2009 1:28:45 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Too sick for words!)
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To: Captain Kirk

Right. So let’s move on.


131 posted on 06/19/2009 1:29:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Too sick for words!)
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To: a fool in paradise

So where is Obama’s statement?

“Oh sh*t.”
_____________________________

Naaaaaah. Zero made another ‘deeply concerned’ comment about the ‘I-a-told-ya’s’ threat about what will happen to the protesters if they continue.


132 posted on 06/19/2009 1:29:26 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: P-Marlowe
"No he sticks it up his @$$ to make sure he is still full of $#i+. "

Bravo, perfect.

133 posted on 06/19/2009 1:30:38 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: 1rudeboy
Only my sister, she's a little misguided but she's not stupid - she didn't vote for the Obamessiah.
134 posted on 06/19/2009 1:32:35 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Captain Kirk
"The very fact that we picked someone to "stand with" in the first place wss the source of the original problem. "

No, we just picked the wrong horse in a two horse race.

By Ron Paul's reasoning, and by extrapolation I presume your's as well, we wouldn't have intervened in the Berlin Airlift because we shouldn't have "picked a side".

When you are are the world's sole superpower, and the beacon of freedom for fledgling Democracies, when you don't pick a side, you're still picking a side.

135 posted on 06/19/2009 1:34:19 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Has anybody asked if the “generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy (Obama)” that Biden spoke of has happened yet?


136 posted on 06/19/2009 1:35:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Captain Kirk

We stood with Stalin against Hitler. One of FDR’s VPs even saw Stalin’s gulags firsthand.


137 posted on 06/19/2009 1:37:05 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Bokababe

What do we get out of this condemnation?

We get our honor back.


138 posted on 06/19/2009 1:38:14 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (She is our Joan of Arc and we are her Guardian Captains.)
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To: GraceG

“but at least Ron Paul is consistent in his beliefs”

No he isn’t. Here is Ron Paul condemning Israel and America. He claims America is a ‘participant’ in Israel’s invasion of Gaza by not condemning Israel. He claims that America has antagonized the Muslim/Arab world by not condemning Israel:

http://disinter.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/ron-paul-condemns-israeli-terrorism/

Yet he opposes any condemnation of the Iranian regime as meddling in other nations affairs.


139 posted on 06/19/2009 1:41:04 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Big_Monkey
Do you want to be on the winning side, or the losing side?

I don't want to be on either "side." We picked sides in Iran enough already. First, we picked the Shah. That was the losing side. Then we picked the other side in the Iran / Iraq war. That didn't end up working to our advantage, either.

If we never would have taken a side in Iran in the first place, perhaps their "revolution" in the early 80s would have been quite different. It might have taken place later, but maybe it would have produced a democracy instead of an oligarchy. I'm hopeful that whatever is going on now leads to that result, even if it is 30 years overdue. And I have zero confidence that any resolution our House passes is going to do anything to make a real democracy more likely there.
140 posted on 06/19/2009 1:42:47 PM PDT by mysterio
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