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(US) House condemns Tehran crackdown on protesters ( 405 in favor, Ron Paul against )
Breitbart ^
| Jun 19 12:43 PM US/Eastern
| ANNE FLAHERTY Associated Press Writer
Posted on 06/19/2009 10:24:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Captain Kirk
"Thanks for the free advertising...."....said Bernie Maddoff.
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:20:48 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Too sick for words!)
To: servantboy777
122
posted on
06/19/2009 1:20:54 PM PDT
by
Allegra
( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
To: Lazamataz
I knew that would raise your hackles.
To: Lazamataz
--who wants America to withdraw into a shell, which is impossible in the highly-connected world we live in.--
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:22:10 PM PDT
by
seatrout
(I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
To: Lazamataz
I just can't bother with someone like that. Well...I suppose if you can't handle someone who disagrees with you (except for calling them names), we can't have a conversation. We agree on that much apparently.
To: Big_Monkey
"So you the lone member of the Neville Chamberlain fan club. I wondered who it was....Glad you shared your alternate universe with us -- it was almost entertaining.
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:22:24 PM PDT
by
Bokababe
(Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
To: mysterio
"Ok, lets look at it a different way. Lets say you are America and you want to encourage the Iranians to have another election because you think the results are corrupt. Considering that power rests solely in the hands of the mullah ruling class, do you think a resolution passed by the US House of Representatives will further or hinder that cause?" The Mullah's are eventually going to lose this fight. It may not be this time, but it will certainly be the next. Do you want to be on the winning side, or the losing side?
If we stand with the young and the professionals, they'll remember that when they're in power. Just like the Islamic fundamentalists remembered that we stood (at least for a little while) with the Shah. Look how that turned out.
To: servantboy777
It appears then your knowledge of the constitution is limited. My point has been made.I haven't offered my views on the Constitution because I don't think it's an issue here. It doesn't surprise me that Ron Paul *does* think it's an issue though. He's entitled to his opinion just as you are.
Don't say though, that nobody's ever explained to you why we're there. That's the only reason I responded to you. If you want to debate the Constitutional merits of it, then I'm not interested.
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:27:25 PM PDT
by
csense
To: Big_Monkey
If we stand with the young and the professionals, they'll remember that when they're in power. Just like the Islamic fundamentalists remembered that we stood (at least for a little while) with the Shah. Look how that turned out. With all due respect, you are contradicting yourself. The very fact that we picked someone to "stand with" in the first place wss the source of the original problem. Had we let Mossadeq remain in power, for example, Iran might now be a vibrant democracy and friend to the U.S. As with domestic policy, you can't solve the problems created by intervention with more intervention. The best solution is to get out of the way and let the Iranians create the own revolution.
To: GSWarrior
I haven’t had hackles since 1979. :)
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:28:45 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Too sick for words!)
To: Captain Kirk
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:29:14 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Too sick for words!)
To: a fool in paradise
So where is Obamas statement?
“Oh sh*t.”
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Naaaaaah. Zero made another ‘deeply concerned’ comment about the ‘I-a-told-ya’s’ threat about what will happen to the protesters if they continue.
To: P-Marlowe
"No he sticks it up his @$$ to make sure he is still full of $#i+. " Bravo, perfect.
To: 1rudeboy
Only my sister, she's a little misguided but she's not stupid - she didn't vote for the Obamessiah.
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:32:35 PM PDT
by
jacknhoo
(Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
To: Captain Kirk
"The very fact that we picked someone to "stand with" in the first place wss the source of the original problem. " No, we just picked the wrong horse in a two horse race.
By Ron Paul's reasoning, and by extrapolation I presume your's as well, we wouldn't have intervened in the Berlin Airlift because we shouldn't have "picked a side".
When you are are the world's sole superpower, and the beacon of freedom for fledgling Democracies, when you don't pick a side, you're still picking a side.
To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Has anybody asked if the “generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy (Obama)” that Biden spoke of has happened yet?
To: Captain Kirk
We stood with Stalin against Hitler. One of FDR’s VPs even saw Stalin’s gulags firsthand.
To: Bokababe
What do we get out of this condemnation?
We get our honor back.
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posted on
06/19/2009 1:38:14 PM PDT
by
Blue State Insurgent
(She is our Joan of Arc and we are her Guardian Captains.)
To: GraceG
“but at least Ron Paul is consistent in his beliefs”
No he isn’t. Here is Ron Paul condemning Israel and America. He claims America is a ‘participant’ in Israel’s invasion of Gaza by not condemning Israel. He claims that America has antagonized the Muslim/Arab world by not condemning Israel:
http://disinter.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/ron-paul-condemns-israeli-terrorism/
Yet he opposes any condemnation of the Iranian regime as meddling in other nations affairs.
To: Big_Monkey
Do you want to be on the winning side, or the losing side?
I don't want to be on either "side." We picked sides in Iran enough already. First, we picked the Shah. That was the losing side. Then we picked the other side in the Iran / Iraq war. That didn't end up working to our advantage, either.
If we never would have taken a side in Iran in the first place, perhaps their "revolution" in the early 80s would have been quite different. It might have taken place later, but maybe it would have produced a democracy instead of an oligarchy. I'm hopeful that whatever is going on now leads to that result, even if it is 30 years overdue. And I have zero confidence that any resolution our House passes is going to do anything to make a real democracy more likely there.
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