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Mafia blamed for $134bn fake Treasury bills
Financial Times ^
| June 18, 2009
| FT reporters
Posted on 06/19/2009 7:54:11 AM PDT by 10Ring
One summer afternoon, two Japanese men in their 50s on a slow train from Italy to Switzerland said they had nothing to declare at the frontier point of Chiasso.
But in a false bottom of one of their suitcases, Italian customs officers and ministry of finance police discovered a staggering $134bn (97bn, £82bn) in US Treasury bills.
TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bearerbonds; bonds; italy; mafia
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These guys were just trying to commit the securities fraud that Americans won't commit (now that Madoff is in the klink).
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posted on
06/19/2009 7:54:11 AM PDT
by
10Ring
To: 10Ring
“I hear ‘tings, Joey, I hear tings”
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posted on
06/19/2009 7:56:50 AM PDT
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
To: 10Ring
The mafia? Who could possibly be on the other end of that transaction? The dollar amounts are way too large for even large-scale criminal activity.
To: 10Ring
From the article;
"Whether the men are really Japanese, as their passports declare, is unclear but Italian and US secret services working together soon concluded that the bills and accompanying bank documents were most probably counterfeit, the latest handiwork of the Italian Mafia."
That's some really good sleuthing there.
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posted on
06/19/2009 7:58:31 AM PDT
by
Roccus
(The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
To: 10Ring
I still don't understand how anyone hoped to use a $1B (face value) "Kennedy Bond" as a financial instrument when -- according to our government -- there is no such thing as a $1B Kennedy Bond.
This is beyond selling someone the Brooklyn Bridge. This is selling someone the bridge that connects New York to Ireland.
Doesn't a forgery have to have a little credibility?? The whole thing is very weird.
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posted on
06/19/2009 7:58:47 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
To: 10Ring
Did they come to that conclusion based on the Kennedy bonds? ; )
To: 10Ring
Whatever is going on, it’s not what the gov says.
A lot stinks about this “nothing to see here, move along” line.
Someone is dumping bonds before the crash and they don’t want to let it out. Tin foil is on, yes.
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posted on
06/19/2009 7:59:47 AM PDT
by
Principled
(Get the capital back! NRST!)
To: 10Ring
WHICH mafia?
The democrats or the republicans?
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:00:12 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: 10Ring
Oh sure, the Gov’t has never used the mafia before.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:00:49 AM PDT
by
BGHater
(Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
To: ClearCase_guy
This is selling someone the bridge that connects New York to Ireland. What? You got one of those for sale? If so, I'm interested.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:01:17 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: 10Ring
WTF???
Two guys carrying $134 billion in fake bonds, and fake passports, get released - and now no one knows where they are????
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:02:31 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: PGR88
They’re probably swimming with the fishies by now.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:04:21 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: ghost of nixon
So far, none of the explanations, including the one contained in this article, seem to wash.
If it was a criminal enterprise then why would they simply let the international criminal counterfeit smugglers go?
This has yet to be explained satisfactorily, and anyone in a position to shed light on it has, thus far, been evasive and coy.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:04:41 AM PDT
by
AAABEST
(And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
To: 10Ring
Don Bernanke sends his regards.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:05:26 AM PDT
by
perfect_rovian_storm
(The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
To: 10Ring
Wow, it took them this long to come up with a cover story? What a load of bs.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:05:29 AM PDT
by
Nephi
(Support Fascism: Buy GE, GM and Chrysler products! You already buy gasoline.)
To: 10Ring
I’m just waiting to see the headline: “Bogus Treasury bills traced to US Treasury” [/cynic]
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:05:43 AM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: 10Ring
Yakuza, maybe. Mafia, I doubt it.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:05:44 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
To: mewzilla
FWIW, an expert I saw interviewed on FNC was of the opinion a government had to be behind this, especially if these were indeed counterfeit. The expert remarked that only a government would have the tech to concoct forgeries this good.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:06:02 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: TommyDale
My money’s still on the PRC.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:06:27 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: 10Ring
The mystery deepened on Thursday as an Italian blog quoted Colonel Rodolfo Mecarelli of the Como provincial finance police as saying the two men had been released. The colonel and police headquarters in Rome both declined to respond to questions from the Financial Times.They are all fraudulent, its obvious. We dont even have paper securities outstanding for that value, said Mckayla Braden, senior adviser for public affairs at the Bureau of Public Debt at the US Treasury department. This type of scam has been going on for years.
Strange indeed, if they have been released and the treasury says they are "obviously" forged. Someone is obviously wrong. If they were forged they would certainly be in custody, if not it is obvious they would have been released.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:06:36 AM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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