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I am prompted by a radio report that Morgan Stanley is going to repay their bailout today. I picked this particular article because it shows that many have already paid back these funds, and others are expected to repay them soon.

We're talkin' FRAUD here folks.

Morgan Stanley repaid $25 BILLION (with a B) today. So where did an institution that needed $25 BILLION (with a B) a few months ago get the funds to repay this money today? Is it the newly resurgent economy? It sure doesn't seem like it to me.

As the article points out, Morgan Stanley isn't the only institution to have the good fortune to pay back the funds they took just a few months ago. (I started to type "mega funds" but that sort of understates it.)

This Zicam user smells a rat. I really do not know why or what the motivation of these finacial instutions was for creating the air of financial crisis that undid the Republican chances last fall, but it's pretty obvious, to me anyway, that that is just what they did.

ML/NJ

1 posted on 06/17/2009 10:13:54 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Along with that....has anyone noticed that all banks that accepted the bail out.........their stocks are in the tank and going down in value. I thought they were all doing well.


2 posted on 06/17/2009 10:18:11 AM PDT by RC2
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To: ml/nj

Don’t think that this reduces the TARP slush fund. It just tops it right back up. The Republicans on Capital Hill to pretend to be outraged by this “big surprise” have revealed themselves to be even bigger fools than they already are, or rank, incompetent political hacks.


3 posted on 06/17/2009 10:18:19 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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I think banks are doing this because the Democrats have gone crazy in running these banks. In many respects, I applaud the Democrats for making these banks’ lives hell because it will discourage others from getting on the dole.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 10:21:35 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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When the GOV collects these paybacks, where does the money go towards, bringing down the debt or to other great pork projects?


5 posted on 06/17/2009 10:23:41 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: ml/nj

I am so impressed by these banks paying their debts back to us. I hope they all end up doing so. I was seriously afraid that none of them would and we would end up with the debt later on (or our grandchildren). The only worry I have about this is that the money goes directly to the debt that they borrowed the money from. We might get this economy back on track yet. At least paying back the debt if nothing else.


6 posted on 06/17/2009 10:23:45 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ml/nj; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; Free ThinkerNY; ..

The list, ping


7 posted on 06/17/2009 10:25:42 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ml/nj
This Zicam user smells a rat. I really do not know why or what the motivation of these finacial instutions was for creating the air of financial crisis that undid the Republican chances last fall, but it's pretty obvious, to me anyway, that that is just what they did.

Where did they get the money from? Surely there has to be some kind of "legal" accounting available to see where this money came from. It sure couldn't have come from a booming economy.

And like RC2 points out, their stocks are in the tank and going down in value.

There's more than one ratt stinking up the place, there's a load of rotten fish buried somewhere as well.

9 posted on 06/17/2009 10:28:32 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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I think you are forgetting that most of these banks never wanted the money in the first place. Zero and co. forced them to take it in an attempt to control them.
10 posted on 06/17/2009 10:28:32 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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Why are you turning this into a bad thing? The banks worked hard to re-capitalize so they could get out from under the government restrictions. The Obama administration tried to block them, but they were able to do it.

This is good news and proves we didn't need the stimulus. TARP worked.

13 posted on 06/17/2009 10:32:29 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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MOST of the banks didn't use the money they were given, didn't loan it, didn't spend it. They saw the 'trap' that the TARP money represented (ability of Obama to use that as an excuse to start dictating how the banks operated.) So, they had little trouble in sending it back to the would-be dictatorship.

That is the explanation behind why these banks froze loans for the better part of the last five months, not funding new home loans, small business loans, etc. The common refrain has been 'the banks aren't lending' - and this a huge component of why they have not been loaning.

Secondly, banks have been loaning amongst themselves, as they have always done - and they have been cutting back on expenses radically.

There's no 'rat' to smell here - other than the Rat in the 0val 0ffice.

Lastly, banks will still not be lending (at the rate that they were during the boom years) for some time yet. They are sitting on incoming interest and letting that build, so they can, at some point, resume lending... at a far more cautious level than they exhibited in the past, with federal pressure pushing idiotic 'anyone gets a loan' policies. The days of easy money are over - as they must be if banking is to be the stable and viable business it was in the past.

20 posted on 06/17/2009 11:09:33 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: ml/nj; Toddsterpatriot

It’s the profits they made from their dealings with AIG.

Who do you think AIG was paying? Phantoms?


32 posted on 06/17/2009 10:40:58 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: ml/nj

The gov’t should declare the payment late and charge the banks 29% interest.


41 posted on 06/21/2009 10:20:06 PM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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